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lilibetp

I would like to have been at the show when Christian Dior first introduced The New Look.

Anonymous

Oh you took the words out of my brain as I read TLo’s question!!! Better than taking the brains out of my brain I suppose.
Anonymous

Yes, that jumped into my mind too. Or Coco Chanel’s first few shows, when fashion was changing so radically.
Anonymous

That was my first thought, too! Second thought – Christian Lacriox’s first show.

http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

One designer living or dead? McQueen. Without a doubt. I tend to not think of McQueen as fashion so much as art, since fashion generally denotes a certain level of wearability, but I think the show would be fun. Second choice would be Dior himself. I have a real soft spot for the New Look.

And I have now figured out what I hate most about team challenges: a shortage of TLo posts for the week!!! The FW coverage was wonderful, but with only two PR posts, I missed your funny biting critiques:) So happy we’re starting the new PR week.

Anonymous

I would go with McQueen, either a couture show or the spring 2004(?) show where his menswear was inspired by WWII desert foxes. It would be amazing to see in person. Are we doing drinks? I hope so, it’s chilly here, so make mine a hot toddy, served by a hot bartender who may or may not be named Tod.
Anonymous

I would go with McQueen, either a couture show or the spring 2004(?) show where his menswear was inspired by WWII desert foxes. It would be amazing to see in person. Are we doing drinks? I hope so, it’s chilly here, so make mine a hot toddy, served by a hot bartender who may or may not be named Tod.

MilaXX

I’ll go one further, not only will Bert and Kimberly not get phased by having models/clients over a size 2, Josh and maybe Laura will have the douch-i-ess remarks, that is other than Olivier’s fear of the D cup.

http://twitter.com/ILikeShiny Cindi Williams

I know! I just want to tell Olivier: “Seasons don’t fear the D cup, nor do the winds or the sun or the rain. Come on baby (don’t fear the D cup)…take my hand…
- http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart
  
  And frankly, a D cup doesn’t even have to be that big! It depends on the body as to whether it should present a problem for any competent designer or not.
  - Anonymous
    
    It’s true. I’m a D and know one would ever guess.
- Anonymous
  
  Yes, but if you sing that in the workroom, Clinique will take it as a sign that his design needs more cowbell.
- Anonymous
  
  I’m embarrassed for him and his lack of proffessionalism.

http://twitter.com/jennsaysmeow Fifi LaRoux

Mai tai please! Let’s get ready for the cray cray!

Anonymous

Alexander McQueen, I’m kinda sad to say.

Go Bert and Kimberly (from Maryland)!

Vanilla Stoli and (Diet) ginger ale for this “Real Woman,” please.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=12500056 Joseph Lamour

Yeah Maryland! DC Metro say what!
- Anonymous
  
  We native Washingtonians know there’s so much more to our Metro area than the Fed!

scottyf

Oh shit, that’s an easy one:

Without a doubt, even if I had to go in through the “coloreds only” door, it would be a Balenciaga circa 1950′s show.

Anonymous

Absolutely on Cristóbal Balenciaga. And then Alexander McQueen.
Anonymous

Absofuckinglutely!!!!! (with Charles James and Schiap 1930′s close behind)

Yuval :)

Ooh…first comment!

I would have to say McQueen. His work is so amazing….I would LOVE to see it in real life.

I totally agree about the bitchy-twitchy factor of this season….it’s like a hothouse of squabbling designers fighting the heat and each other……

Anonymous

I would love to have seen a HALSTON runway show. I lived in Manhattan when his shop was on Madison Ave, and would walk by there on my way home. Always peeked in hoping I would see him.

Anonymous

Halston came to mind for me as well.

I’m currently drinking a diet coke while trying to decide whether or not to watch tonight’s Project Runway or keep watching Remains of the Day on TCM. Runway, it is.
Anonymous

Halston came to mind for me as well.

I’m currently drinking a diet coke while trying to decide whether or not to watch tonight’s Project Runway or keep watching Remains of the Day on TCM. Runway, it is.

http://fafafab.tumblr.com/ fafafab

I say Bryce is the next to go

http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

I would agree — he really hasn’t impressed the judges at all, and the only reason he’s still there is because there was always someone they hated more. I won’t miss him… he hasn’t impressed me either.
Anonymous

We can only hope
muzan-e

Which one’s Bryce?

…. sigh. *g*
Anonymous

And Bryce seems the type to flake out over “real women” even though he’s not stick skinny himself. I’m not really knocking him personally I just can’t stand when the designers hold women to a standard they themselves can’t meet.
- http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart
  
  At least Christian really was that tiny himself:)
- http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart
  
  At least Christian really was that tiny himself:)

Anonymous

McQueen. Seeing Savage Beauty at the Met was just life-altering.

Anonymous

Could not agree more!

Anonymous

Whoever it was that made those 1920′s beaded flapper dresses. I’m so intrigued by the styling and everything! not that I could ever wear any of it…

http://twitter.com/lizwrites Elizabeth Briggs

Alexander McQueen, definitely.

Having a rough day, but my one comfort is knowing I get to sit down with a glass of wine and watch PR when I get home. Thank goodness for trashy reality TV.

Anonymous

PR + wine = therapeutic refuge! I’m with ya, sister!
Now I am The Bee

Totally agree. Its been one of those days….

Anonymous

Viktor and Josh (maybe even Olivier) will be the ones who will break down over having non-size 2 models. I remember Viktor saying something to that effect in his bio before the season started.

Agreed on Burt and Kimberly. They will just roll their eyes at the rest….

http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

Olivier seemed to be complaining mightily about his model’s cup size in previews — now, I know the editing gnomes delight in trying to mess with our heads, but there were an awful lot of clips implying that.

Anonymous

Alexander McQueen Fall 2006 to be specific – that’s the one where Kate Moss appeared as a hologram. The whole show is the most hauntingly beautiful show I’ve ever seen and I look at it on style.com when I need a lift.

I saw some of the dresses at the Savage Beauty exhibit and the Kate Moss hologram actually made me cry, and I’m not really a Kate Moss fan so much.

Then it would be MiuMiu Spring 2005.

Or maybe it would be Marc Jacobs’ infamous Perry Ellis grunge collection because there don’t seem to be many images of it and it would have been fun to be a fly on the wall at that show. Marc Jacobs will always have a special place in my heart because of that, for so many reasons.

http://twitter.com/#!/Space_Kitty Space Kitty

Can I sit next to you at the ’06 McQueen show?
- Elizabeth Riley
  
  Lord, same here. Just watched it online and holy wow. No words.
MilaXX

good choices.

http://www.facebook.com/gina.rook Gina Knox Rook

I’d want to see a Rodarte show. I love those psychadelic chicks!

http://twitter.com/asciident Melissa Della

Oh I’ve had a rough week, so I’ve been looking forward to PR and hoping you boys would have the time and energy to livetweet it! Pass me a margarita and I’ll get tipsy enough I won’t remember their nasty “real woman” remarks in the morning.

I would love to see a Dior show in person, but McQueen is a very close runner up…

Anonymous

I will certainly take that bet, I can definitely see them not bitching and moaning about the challenge. Runway show: Atelier Versace

Anonymous

Another vote for A. McQueen. Any of his shows – any of them.

Anonymous

“runway chaff” – I’d probably put Bryce and Olivieireuriee and Josh in that group.

I’d probably say Oscar de la Renta. I like pretty clothes (although I probably could not wear any of his) – maybe I could get a gift bag with the perfume and the lotion

http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

i think theyre all pretty much runway chaff, except for –dont hate me– bert.

& maybe oliver in a few years.

& maybe some of the rest of them if we had seen better work from them which would have only arisen from a room suffused w/ less idiotdrama. i do note, however, that bert wasnt young enough to feel personally beaten by that drama so was still able to turn out his type of excellence.

Joshua Flake

Valentina.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Jessica-TallGirl-Freeman/1043623567 Jessica TallGirl Freeman

Chanel in the 1950s when she re-entered the fashion world.

Anonymous

My thoughts exactly!

Stephen Bornstein

IT WOULD HAVE TO BE PAUL POIRET OR FORTUNY

Anonymous

Erte!!

Judy_J

Dior. Or Chanel. I’ll have a martini, very dry. This bar looks fabulous!

Anonymous

The view is fabulous! May I join you? I have to say, though, that those orange sofa-ettes look exactly the case my Eye Bobs reading glasses came in!
- Anonymous
  
  Finally some seating that can be sat upon!
- Judy_J
  
  Just got back from a happy hour…wish you could have joined us for real! Thank goodness for DVR…I’m going to catch up on PR now.

Anonymous

Yves Saint Laurent circa 70′s

Anonymous

I was thinking YSL too, either the first look at le Smoking or perhaps his Safari collection.

Or when Karl took over Chanel and Ines was stalking the catwalk for him. That would be good too.
- Anonymous
  
  YSL – the two-hour Ballets Russe/Russian Cossack collection.

http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

i’d love to say something like fath or fortuny or pierre poiret– something like that {not that they did runway shows, but, you know}.

to be really real tho i’d have to say ossie clark or kansai yamamoto or the great bill gibb circa 1970ish, just so i could be in that place at that time. i missed it by a decade & oh, does my heart break.

otoh: schiaparelli.

& how fun it would be to line up for a bes-ben sale in mid-century chicago. my mother’s from there, but she was ridiculously poor. still, i wonder if she ever saw one.

Anonymous

For the record, I, too, have been known to get Paul Poiret and Hercule Poirot mixed up nomenclaturally.

Terrible idea: Poiret/Poirot, a play about a fashion designer who masquerades as a detective.

Anonymous

McQueen and the Plato’s Atlantis collection. I really need to see the iconic shoes in person. (I don’t live close to NY so I didn’t get to see the show at the Met T.T)

iCouture

Oh ladies, I need me a Cosmo stat, what a week, I tell ya!!! Seems like everyone is feeling about the same.

Fashion Show: Definitely love the 20′s & 30′s, so I think an early Lanvin show of the time would be spectacular!

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1303837450 Lauren Dorsee Dillon

No debate, McQueen. I’m really angry at him for offing himself.

Eclectic Mayhem

Ooooooh. Vivienne Westwood for still with us. Givenchy for no-longer-with-us.

Happy Anniversary chaps!

Eclectic

Anonymous

Yves St Laurent in the 70s. Or Fortuny just to see his pleating in person.

Anonymous

Anything 19th century Parisian, because I secretly want to wear steam-punk costumes every day.

Diane Furstenberg, because she was the first designer who ever made me want to actually pay full price retail for anything that covered the body, and yet had nothing to do with practicality or necessity. Her clothes make me wish that I could be the woman who she envisions wearing her collections.

http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

dejah_thoris:

you can be the woman DvF envisions wearing her dresses. you already are. she’s one of the crème de la designers who designs so all women can wear her stuff. she always has. along w/, off the top of my head, donna karan, betsey johnson, vivienne westwood –there are more, but not many, & they usually seem to be women– she cuts & seams purposefully to make women look good. it’s difficult to look bad in a DvF dress –i mean, one really has to try– thats the power of them & of her venerability & success. more power to her, too.
- sarah jacobs
  
  Twenty years ago i went into the betsey johnsonstore on Columbus avenue, a black strappy evening dress was on sale. I took one in my size and tried it on..when i got out of the dressing room there were several of us, all with wildly different bodies who had all tried on that dress. I was in my early 30′s and had two kids ..my body showed it, there were teenagers, some of us were short others willowy, some fat and some thin and we all looked terrific in our dresses.
  
  Betsey is clearly designing for women. – of all kinds.
  
  I realize as I keep watching the show that so many of the young gay male designers on the show are designing for themselves. So many of the shapes they are working with look lovley on women shaped like lithe young men, not so mch once you get a womanly body in those clothes.
  
  I guess this is one of the reasons I like bert’s work. he has more experience designing and understands that a woman just isn’t a guy without a penis.
  - http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart
    
    Yeah, I get very annoyed by that — I don’t think everything needs to be flattering on every body, but I think if you’re a decent designer at all, you should be able to designer for more than one build. I mean, I’m not the next McQueen, yet I manage to make stuff for friends ranging from a size 0 petite to a size 20 tall. It’s really not that difficult.
    - http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash
      
      mcqueen, the living one, come to think of it, is one of the other people who could & did actually design for a range of different figures.
      
      yes, it’s cos his primary influence was, yes, vivienne westwood. but he still could, & did, do it. & i’ll also throw in there isabella blow & her protegée/discovery/what have you, sophie dahl. thats a pretty persuasive range right there of people in his immediate circle.
    - http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart
      
      Sarah Burton? She’s the one currently heading up the McQueen label.
    - http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash
      
      no, no– mcqueen himself, years ago.
      
      i like sarah burton too but i’m thinking of some very specific things.
    - http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart
      
      Well, I was wondering because of the “the living one” ’cause it sounded more like you meant McQueen:)
    - http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart
      
      Well, I was wondering because of the “the living one” ’cause it sounded more like you meant McQueen:)
  - http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart
    
    Yeah, I get very annoyed by that — I don’t think everything needs to be flattering on every body, but I think if you’re a decent designer at all, you should be able to designer for more than one build. I mean, I’m not the next McQueen, yet I manage to make stuff for friends ranging from a size 0 petite to a size 20 tall. It’s really not that difficult.
  - http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash
    
    i could tell an almost ridiculously sad story here of what i looked like before my first marriage & after it ended {i was nineteen when it did}. i wont. not appropriate hereupon. but i will say that i could wear betsey before & after & that was one of the only good things i can remember from that time. wonderful work, always. always.
  - Anonymous
    
    This is exactly what I have thought for many years.
    “I realize as I keep watching the show that so many of the young gay male
    designers on the show are designing for themselves. So many of the
    shapes they are working with look lovley on women shaped like lithe
    young men, not so mch once you get a womanly body in those clothes.”
    
    Clothes for skinny women with no breasts. I also hate when clothes do not handle proportions as they up the size. For example often the arms don’t get bigger as the sizes get larger. or they just cut the entire thing bigger – and the shoulders would only work on a linebacker (or the shoulders stay exactly the same.)
    - sarah jacobs
      
      Actually I hear that’s a problem not only with RTW clothing but also with clothing patterns.
    - http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart
      
      Yeah, that’s not the clothing. It’s an issue with pattern. The problem is that a great many women whose waist falls into a plus-size need misses’ proportions. And there are some (my sister-in-law who is naturally a size 0, but went up to a 12 for a few months) who are in misses’ but need a more plus proportion.
      
      To a degree it’s understandable, in that for mass market, you simply can’t make clothes that fit every body type perfectly — it can’t be done.
      
      But that’s no excuse here. These designers aren’t making patterns for mass market use. They are making clothes for a single person, who they have in front of them. There is no reason they shouldn’t be able to accommodate ANY body at that point — if you have a size 22 woman in front of you with a thick waist, the ways to make it appear smaller and create curves ARE EXACTLY THE FREAKING SAME AS IF SHE WERE A SIZE 8 WITH NO CURVES!!! The rules don’t change — what works on a curvy 2 generally works on a curvy 18. What works on an athletic 8 works on an athletic 20.
    - http://profiles.google.com/denise.alden Denise Alden
      
      Who are you?! That’s pretty revolutionary talk: “There is no reason they shouldn’t be able to accommodate ANY body . . . if you have a size 22 woman in front of you . . .” This size 24 woman wishes she were in front of YOU! Thanks for voicing my thoughts better than I could.
    - Anonymous
      
      Having just heard Olivieriereirere talking about his extreme discomfort in designing for women who have large breasts….honey, just stay with menswear, then.
  - Anonymous
    
    Olivier just said about 9:09 that he preferred women’s figures that were like his. He does not like designing for women with breasts.

http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

ps. anya wont freak out about it either– too impolitic.

Eclectic Mayhem

She might go so far as to exhibit that frozen half-smile she does so well…

Anonymous

Elsa Schiaparelli. No contest. I saw a show of her designs at the Philadelphia Museum of Art a few years back and had to be restrained from breaking glass and running off with about half the pieces.

Throw me in the barrel with the rest of those who’ve had a tough week. And please pour me a lovely vodka gimlet and keep ‘em coming! I am not looking forward to this episode. Already I can see there’s way too much of fucking Clinique, the BM favorite. I am looking forward to Tim’s conversation with Olivier about breasts. And TLo, I’ll bet you’ve called it: Bert and Kimberley will be the only ones not bitching about having to design for actual women. It’s going to be a nightmare. I just know it.

Anonymous

Oh me too! Elsa Schiaparelli without a doubt.
- Anonymous
  
  Oh, yes! Schiaparelli is a close second to Chanel for me.
  - Anonymous
    
    She would be a close second to Lacroix for me.
Anonymous

I can’t believe her name didn’t come to mind when I was answering this question!
http://profiles.google.com/denise.alden Denise Alden

Yes to Elsa Schiaparelli!

Anonymous

mcqueen. then dior couture.

Anonymous

Definitely McQueen. His shows appeared to really be a magical event and experience–the clothes, but so much more.

Anonymous

I think just for sheer fun I would like to see a Bob Mackie show circa Cher. Scotch neat, please. (Stuffy head!)

Anonymous

Since PRAus Season 3 is now done, and I’m sure I’m not the only one who watched it, I’ll offer my opinion on it.

The series, in my mind, had the opposite problem of this series of original flavor. That is, the designers never really had their personalities come through and weren’t really forced to interact. It needed a team challenge or something, force everyone to get together and do stuff, maybe have a personality clash beyond “Timothy is annoying, everyone is annoyed” or “Matcho did something silly”. Something, anything, to get people talking to each other instead of just quietly sewing for forty minutes.

Truth be told, this could be an editing problem, since personalities did develop really late in the season and I’m not sure how they didn’t show up before. Johnny’s weird hyperactivity was something in dire need in the dreary first half of the season, and I’m not sure if it didn’t show up because he wasn’t quite comfortable with the rest of the group (they not being forced to interact) or because nobody thought to include it in the episode.

That said, it did have a solid last few episodes, and Craig wishing Dylan luck in the final judging was one of the best moments in the series – and it showed, again, why good people who like each other are much better television than bad people who hate each other. I just wish there was more stuff like that throughout rather than it taking until really late in the series for it to develop. It was annoying just because given the camaraderie and personality exhibited in that last episode, I can’t help but think there was a lot of good character moments on the cutting room floor that would allow me to connect with these people and maybe even root for one of them.

As for the designs, I wasn’t wowed really and I didn’t “get” the winning collection (A lavender suit is really the height of innovation and style? Really?). I did like Craig’s finale collection, but he didn’t win, so what do I know? The funny thing is in the first episode I thought Craig should have gone home, what an interesting turnaround.

Anonymous

For the most part, I agree. It was wonderful to see the camaraderie between the finalists, but, other than occasional little flashes (usually when someone was sent home), we didn’t really get to see much in terms of their relationships or real senses of who they are before – though, given how the current US season is going, gift horses, etc..

And, honestly, Dylan’s was the only collection by which I was disappointed. From the home visit, with the sketches and what he showed Alex, the prints he designed and so on, I was expecting to be quite fond of it, but I was not. Johnny’s turned out better than I expected, mainly because he listened to Alex about toning down some of his tacky instincts (I always found his work kind of tacky, albeit in a bit of a Versace way, even the things the judges loved during the show). Craig’s I liked, and I thought it was the most, as the judges themselves said, international of the group – and he had a richer, though perhaps less interesting, colour palette. I thought he should have won.

Anonymous

Oscar de la Renta is who I’d like to see. Hands down.

As for Duchess, he seems to have some sort of pocket fetish/fear, no? He imagines people doing all sorts of things with their pockets; stuffing them with lambchops and beer, cutting them out altogether (to avoid the unsightly bulge of1/16 an inch of fabric), and on and on. I sense that our poor duchess had some sort of horrific pocket-related trauma early in life.

And am I the only person think, WTF?! Is it thursday already?? This past week has been so insane with work, it completely disappeared!

–GothamTomato

Anonymous

GT, my week has also been insane with work. In fact, my eyes hurt. And my head. But this week has seemed endless to me–like we should have had three or four PRs between last Thursday and now. Just two different ways of handling the hell that is sometimes earning a living, I guess. Please have a tall one–whatever you’re drinking–on me!
Anonymous

GT, my week has also been insane with work. In fact, my eyes hurt. And my head. But this week has seemed endless to me–like we should have had three or four PRs between last Thursday and now. Just two different ways of handling the hell that is sometimes earning a living, I guess. Please have a tall one–whatever you’re drinking–on me!
http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

To be fair, I have a bit of a pocket issue myself — I believe the damn things should be functional and that there are times you need a frigging pocket!
Anonymous

I’m retired, and the week still seems to have vanished!

Anonymous

Oscar de la Renta circa late 70s/early 80s. My mother’s dear friend who is no longer with us was on his design team and it would be awesome to be able to go back in time and see the shows from that period in person. I did get to see a few on tape when our friend would bring over a few VCR tapes (haha) for us. He and my mom would sit on the couch and sip cocktails as they watched and commented and I would think to myself how cool they both were. :)

Anonymous

Charles Frederick Worth, Paul Poiret, Fortuny!

Anonymous

Worth and Poiret, absolutely.

Anonymous

Coco Chanel, without a doubt.

Anonymous

I’m tempted to say Lucile when she more or less invented the idea, but I’m not sure – it probably wouldn’t seem quite right. Schiaparelli maybe? Madame Grès is also a possibility. Or Balenciaga in around 1955 – or perhaps Issey Miyake in about 85.

I have no one answer, apparently. I do find it fascinating to read other people’s answers to this question, though; it’s interesting to see what designers other readers here really respond to – a lot of McQueens (understandably), a lot of Diors (which amuses me, because I hate The New Look).

http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

Dior’s New Look is iconic, though — whether you personally like it or not, you have to recognize its impact. And for women like me, who were born post-Twiggy with DNA that hadn’t gotten the memo, the New Look glamorizes and emphasizes the curves that we were often told were unattractive and/or unfashionable. There was never a well-endowed woman who couldn’t wear the New Look; the same cannot be said for the ck minimalism that was popular during my formative years.
- Anonymous
  
  Oh, The New Look has undoubtedly earned its place in fashion history – ten times over – but I just don’t actually like it, which is even a bit unfair, because it’s more the associations it has for me than the clothes themselves. I certainly don’t expect other people to share my sentiments (I’m just amused sometimes by how much my opinions can be out of step) and I completely understand why other people respond so well to it. I do think there’s a bit of rose-tinting involved in looking back – but, isn’t there always?
  - http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart
    
    Oh yeah, if anything, the New Look was probably more oppressive for the women that it didn’t suit — at least now, there’s enough variety in trends to find something that probably does suit you. But there’s something very appealing about a period in fashion in which my body would not just have been tolerated, but was held up as the ideal. (Of course, the poor athletic or waifish types had the same problem then that my curvy sisters and I have now)
    - Anonymous
      
      Well, hopefully without getting too pointed (or long winded), that’s a great part of what I mean when I say rose-tinting. The ideal silhouette circa the New Look may well have been an hourglass, but so far as fashion was concerned, the ideal body-type was not much different from that today – the hourglass was all in cut and fit, not in the body. There was something of a change in model ideals in the late 60s, which had more to do with changing socioeconomic backgrounds and appearances (Twiggy was the first model in Britain who came from the working classes), but fashion has always been about tall, willowy white women.
      
      Fashion as an industry, the modern industry, is fundamentally in its origins bourgeois imitation of the aristocracy – albeit, an aristocracy that no longer really exists. In its early days and through to the 20th century, fashion was itself an aristocratic phenomenon and fashion designers, especially couture designers, were socially intertwined with the nobility and gentry: e.g. Charles Worth’s most prominent client was Empress Eugènie; Lucile was herself Lucy, Lady Duff-Gordon; Emilio Pucci was the Marchese di Barsento; Elsa Schiaparelli grew up at the Palazzo Corsini in Rome; even more recently, Diane von Furstenberg came by that von honestly, though by marriage (granted, technically, that the Princes Fürstenberg were actually zu Fürstenberg when they were allowed to use their titles in Austria).
      
      Christian Dior was a couturier whose clientele by and large were the remains of the French aristocracy and his was a business which catered to their ideals, which had changed little since the 19th century. The ideal body type in fashion, whatever its twentieth and twenty-first century vicissitudes, has its origin in 19th century ideals of a woman’s body amongst the upper class. And those ideals were tall, slender, and fair skinned – more or less as you see on a runway today.
    - http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash
      
      just a tiny comment to put at the end of yr very good comment:
      
      beauty also. thats where we get our ideas of beauty, from royalty & people who wished to imitate royalty.
      
      i’m tired now & yr comment was fabulous so i dont have a lot more to add, but i’ve thought about this a lot. there isnt really a definitive, objective, unbiased definition of whats attractive & if you peel the onion down, you will find the same inspirational parameters, if not the same ideal, in every society.
    - Anonymous
      
      So very true. Across the world and across the ages, the ruling classes have been seen as the Beautiful People, and though the particulars vary from culture to culture that thread runs through.
    - Anonymous
      
      So very true. Across the world and across the ages, the ruling classes have been seen as the Beautiful People, and though the particulars vary from culture to culture that thread runs through.
    - Anonymous
      
      So very true. Across the world and across the ages, the ruling classes have been seen as the Beautiful People, and though the particulars vary from culture to culture that thread runs through.
    - Anonymous
      
      So very true. Across the world and across the ages, the ruling classes have been seen as the Beautiful People, and though the particulars vary from culture to culture that thread runs through.
    - http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart
      
      Marilyn Monroe. Jayne Mansfield. Bettie Page. All had breasts and hips and teeny-tiny waists and all were considered incredible sex symbols. That was the body girls were aspiring to, not Kate Moss or Twiggy.
      
      White I will argue with not at all — in the ’50s or today. And the women I listed were not fashion models. But how many truly buxom celebrities are held up as standards for women today? Christina Hendricks… and… um… That’s about it. Even the women you hear about having “curves” — most of them don’t. They are more curvy than a runway model, but WHY would that be the measuring stick?!?
      
      The New Look’s cut and fit created an hourglass because it was designed to trick the eye into believing that your body was shaped like that on purpose. It was giving you that silhouette because it was the one you wanted.
      
      Models are generally going to be far thinner than average with far less curve. Because it allows a designer to make clothes with hanger appeal that still look good on the body — as long as the body allows it to hang the same way it does on a hanger.
    - Anonymous
      
      I apologize in advance for the lengthy epistle:
      I’ll see your Marilyn Monroe, Jayne Mansfield, and Bettie Page and raise you an Audrey Hepburn and a Grace Kelly.
      
      Marilyn, Jayne, and Bettie were sex symbols, yes, but that’s exactly it – they were male icons (in the sense of icons for men, not in the sense of really convincing drag queens). None of them were ever the centre of the fashion world’s attention and I don’t think most girls even knew who Bettie Page was*. Marilyn was a different story, but it’s only in retrospect that women have this interest and directly so as a reaction to the ubiquity of media standards. There, I’m afraid, I have a bit of problem, since this amounts to a lionization of objectification – granted, under assumptions of reclamation (I am overly fond of -ation words in this sentence), but suffice it to say, I think it’s a mistake. It’s not relevant, but I also feel somewhat obliged to mention that The New Look was not so new before any of them became famous (okay, that sounds a little bitchy).
      
      There is also a definite “high culture”/”low culture” divide in what we’re talking about (aside: there have been studies which show that the preferences of straight men with regard to women’s body types trend according to socioeconomic background – viz., upper class men are more likely to prefer thinner women and lower class men are more likely to prefer curvier women) and fashion, pretentiously or otherwise, tends to see itself as “high culture”. Marilyn, et al. were always more “low culture” than “high culture” (excepting when the twain met).
      
      You’re absolutely right though about the relative paucity of curvy women held up as standards today (and it is a laugh-to-keep-from-crying sort of situation when some women are used as examples of “having curves”). Though, to go back to what you said earlier about the New Look being oppressive to women who don’t fit the hourglass standard – the important thing to remember is that the problem with society’s standard of beauty is that it has one, not which one it has.
      
      I will have to respectfully disagree about the illusion properties of the classic Dior silhouette: it emphasizes the narrow waist, certainly, but to my mind it de-emphasizes the hips by virtue of the volume. It’s an hourglass silhouette, yes, but it doesn’t give the illusion of an hourglass figure. Granted, that can make it more “flattering” for someone curvier, but only in the sense that one speaks of “flattering” today (i.e. in making one look thinner). At least such is my opinion, I may be wrong.
      
      And I can’t really agree with reducing the standard fashion model body plan to “walking hanger”, particularly to argue that is the reason for its existence. Oh, there is definitely a motive to have the clothes displayed with as little interference from the body as possible, but I think that ignores too much history and treats it as, A, a strictly modern phenomenon, and, B, purely utilitarian. It’s also disturbingly de-humanizing, but then the industry does treat models terribly.
      
      * Would anyone of a more appropriate age care to weigh in on that? I’d like to know.
- Anonymous
  
  Oh, The New Look has undoubtedly earned its place in fashion history – ten times over – but I just don’t actually like it, which is even a bit unfair, because it’s more the associations it has for me than the clothes themselves. I certainly don’t expect other people to share my sentiments (I’m just amused sometimes by how much my opinions can be out of step) and I completely understand why other people respond so well to it. I do think there’s a bit of rose-tinting involved in looking back – but, isn’t there always?
Anonymous

Oh, I wouldn’t tear up tickets to any of those! Madame Gres. Wow! Would love to go to that show in the morning and Miyake in the afternoon! If only we could bend time…
- Anonymous
  
  Wouldn’t it be wonderful? Alas, there is no time travel for TLo readers, but at least we can take comfort in the fact that we are not alone in our inability to time travel.
Anonymous

Sometime right around 1985 I was in NYC on business, and of course part of that business was to hit the Bloomie’s designer section. It was loaded with IM clothing, most of it at 90% off. A sales person told me that the line had been put into an out-of-state store and absolutely none of it sold. I bought everything that was even close to my size, and I still have most of it. That fortunate shopping trip began my lifelong infatuation with Japanese design.–Jillian
Jillian
- Anonymous
  
  Oh, wow, how fortunate you were! (And pearls before swine with everyone else it would seem.) That really is one amazing bit of shopping luck.
  
  I have to say, this:
  http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/works-of-art/2003.79.16
  is one of my absolute favourite articles of clothing ever designed by anyone.
Anonymous

Sometime right around 1985 I was in NYC on business, and of course part of that business was to hit the Bloomie’s designer section. It was loaded with IM clothing, most of it at 90% off. A sales person told me that the line had been put into an out-of-state store and absolutely none of it sold. I bought everything that was even close to my size, and I still have most of it. That fortunate shopping trip began my lifelong infatuation with Japanese design.–Jillian
Jillian

Anonymous

After some thought, I would like a lemon drop this week. As others have said, it was a hard one.

Although I indicated below that I would like to se a Schiaparelli show, you could also hold my attention with a Mariano Fortuny or Issay Miyake show.

Unto the Duchess I say, if a bon mot is forced, it generally isn’t clever.

http://profiles.google.com/sara.e.munoz Sara Munoz

This is totally Bert & Kim’s challenge. I think Bryce will be confused. Viktor may not be on the top, but he would really have to spin out of control to get eliminated at this point.

Anonymous

McQueen or Viktor and Rolf, for sure

Now I am The Bee

Hi all! This is my last night home before our Colorado vacation. I am very excited to spend several days and nights on top of a mountain in a cottage with THe Hubs–though I’m hoping the drive through Nebraska won’t be too boring…
So–I’ll have my usual tongiht–I need it. A vodka on the rocks with a twist.
I’d love to see a Givenchy runway show. And to make the fantasy complete, I’d like to be in the front row with Audrey Hepburn.

Now I am The Bee

BTW–I looked again at the remaining designers-it sure seems like there’s a lot of ‘em left. I wonder if it’s the histrionics or the mediocre fashions of this season that is making it seem so…long. I know we started with more designers than usual, but sheeeesh!

http://twitter.com/ILikeShiny Cindi Williams

Hi everyone! It’s been a while since I’ve been in the TLounge (always have to watch PR the next day while I’m at work). I don’t drink; are herbal refreshments OK?

Anonymous

Schiaparelli

Anonymous

And let me add that, though I know she didn’t do runway shows, I love the clothes of Edith Head.

http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

You know, I’m thinking Anya and Anthony Ryan will also meet the challenge with a minimum of bitching. We may see complaints if they don’t like the person, but I’d be very surprised if they complain about the size. Anya, because if there is one thing a beauty queen knows, it’s how to watch her words to avoid pissing off ANYONE (“… world peace… for the children…”) Anthony Ryan, because I just don’t think he’d be that thrown.

http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

altho i occasionally find him annoying, i do have to say, also cos of the cancer. once youve looked at yrself during the changes that occur w/ carcinoma & chemo, yr gonna be less of a jerk about other peoples bodies.

i could be wrong, but i dont think so.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Elaine-Lang/100000366510311 Elaine Lang

I am joining the horrible week parade and adding on that tomorrow is shaping up to be a stressful day…so, I’m looking forward to being done with my stupid 1st Grade open house this evening, so I can whip up something tasty and put my feet up in the Lounge with all of you lovely bitches.

It’s hard to say whose shows I’d love to see….I’d love to be able to wear and touch clothes by Worth, Chanel, Schipparelli, Dior….But, for the Showmanship and the true skill and professionalism in runway modeling? How about something like THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QG2j7vbt1Nw iconic Galliano show from 1995?

Anonymous

Gorgeous lounge! The sea beyond the bar is so beautiful.

I’d probably want to see an old runway show, maybe Balenciaga. At the Balenciaga show at the De Young (in SF), I saw footage of his shows, all in small, gilded Parisian salon-type spaces, with a handful of people there. I think that would be more fun than an over-the-top multimedia experience.

aussiegal77

Coco Chanel, hands down and I want to go to lunch with her and hear her tell stories.

aussiegal77

Coco Chanel, hands down and I want to go to lunch with her and hear her tell stories.

http://twitter.com/evergreen_g G and G

Alexander McQueen

http://twitter.com/evergreen_g G and G

Alexander McQueen

Anonymous

YSL No doubt!

Anonymous

YSL No doubt!

Anonymous

Living or dead? Whatever the equivalent of a runway show was (private viewing, maybe?) when Worth was designing.

Anonymous

Living or dead? Whatever the equivalent of a runway show was (private viewing, maybe?) when Worth was designing.

http://profiles.google.com/shawna.ready shawna ready

Oh, McQueen, no question. Although a Chanel show when Coco was designing would have been fabulous too.

http://profiles.google.com/shawna.ready shawna ready

Oh, McQueen, no question. Although a Chanel show when Coco was designing would have been fabulous too.

suz72350

I would love to have attended Schiaparelli’s 1938/39 winter show where her theme was the Zodiac.

I’ll have a margarita. Make it two, please! It’s been a long, hard, rainy week.

Anonymous

I’d die and go to heaven if I could see a Coco Chanel runway show. No one comes even close.

Anonymous

I have two! Coco Chanel and Bill Blass. I want to hear all of Coco stories and ask her about Boy Capel. With Blass, I would ask him about all the women who tried to suduce him and find out who was successful. For some crazy rerason Bill Blass always reminded me of Clark Gable.

Toto Maya

Alexander McQueen, any collection, I don’t care which. It would be amazing.

Hoping that Bert continues his path of cool and rises above the drama, I’m still rooting for him despite his assholeish tendencies.

Anonymous

I’m thinking Anya is smart enough to keep bitchy body comments to a minimum. She was a beauty queen, after all. She’s good at spin; see: I just learned how to sew! Anthony Ryan seems like he’d be a good sport about it.

I peg Laura & Miss Clinique to be totally horrendous about it. Laura’s probably going to be nice to her “model” and then roll her eyes and piss & moan behind the poor woman’s back.

Poor Precious Moments is probably going to collapse inward on himself like a souffle.

Anonymous

Unfortunately, I fear that Olivier will just collapse in a heap from stress on almost every episode. Poor thing is so stressed that when he does smile for the camera, it looks like it hurts. : (

Anonymous

ANDRE KIM. Definitely, absolutely, in a heartbeat. The man was a genius, and he is sorely missed. : (

http://profiles.google.com/melantha.chimera Eileen Duffy

Oh, Alexander McQueen, definitely.

http://twitter.com/AleksandrJohn Alexander Cavaluzzo

Vivienne Westwood. Or, the first fashion show ever. Like, cave people fashion show.

Anonymous

Mary Quant, circa 1966-67. She made fun, affordable clothes for the coming youthquake and was instrumental in permanently changing the direction of fashion. (Though I don’t know if she ever actually had a runway show.)

Jillian

Anonymous

Coco Chanel, sitting in the front row with my good friends Marilyn Monroe and Truman Capote.

Anonymous

Coco Chanel, sitting in the front row with my good friends Marilyn Monroe and Truman Capote.

Anonymous

would love to see McQUeen fashion show then maybe Coco Chanel…

Anonymous

would love to see McQUeen fashion show then maybe Coco Chanel…

Anonymous

That’s an easy one–Alexander McQueen, especially after seeing the exhibit of his work at the Met. Beautiful clothes, and would love to have seen one of his theatrical runway shows in person.

Anonymous

That’s an easy one–Alexander McQueen, especially after seeing the exhibit of his work at the Met. Beautiful clothes, and would love to have seen one of his theatrical runway shows in person.

Anonymous

As the emergency electrical power at my apartment complex is so fitful that we had six, yes 6, power outages yesterday, I have no confidence whatsoever that I’ll be able to watch tonight without interruptions or even at all. Thanks, Irene, the gift that keeps on giving and smelling (i.e., mildew from flood soaked garden/basement level), I need some fabulous to temper my temper.

Or, if no fabulous, and that’s not a given with the PR9 crew, then some genuine attempts at designing for a change? Hmm?

And I completely agree with the Christian Dior New Look runway show “wish I were there.” And a few YSLs, Mary McFaddens, and… if time and imagination are no constraints, how about Vionnet?

All the best,

NDC (flood-weary)

Elaine Lang

I’m skimming and well oiled on gimlets, but I just read that too fast as “Our power at my apartment complex is so fitful that we had sex 6 times….”

Which, uh….Go You?
- Anonymous
  
  Dear Elaine - I assure you, I was talking about half a dozen electrical power failures at the apartment complex where I live. As to your interpretation – not even in my dreams, and at this stage in my life, it’d be a nightmare!

Anonymous

As the emergency electrical power at my apartment complex is so fitful that we had six, yes 6, power outages yesterday, I have no confidence whatsoever that I’ll be able to watch tonight without interruptions or even at all. Thanks, Irene, the gift that keeps on giving and smelling (i.e., mildew from flood soaked garden/basement level), I need some fabulous to temper my temper.

Or, if no fabulous, and that’s not a given with the PR9 crew, then some genuine attempts at designing for a change? Hmm?

And I completely agree with the Christian Dior New Look runway show “wish I were there.” And a few YSLs, Mary McFaddens, and… if time and imagination are no constraints, how about Vionnet?

All the best,

NDC (flood-weary)

Anonymous

I saw the Montreal exhibit of Jean Paul Gaultier and that is who I would like to see. His stuff was unreal!!!

Anonymous

I saw the Montreal exhibit of Jean Paul Gaultier and that is who I would like to see. His stuff was unreal!!!

Presumptuous Insect

Chris March.

Presumptuous Insect

Chris March.

W A

Steven Sprouse circa mid-80′s or Christian Francis Roth when he debuted his Crayola dresses.

http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

not normally my thing 80s/90s but those crayons were beautiful dresses.

W A

Steven Sprouse circa mid-80′s or Christian Francis Roth when he debuted his Crayola dresses.

http://twitter.com/democracydiva Democracy Diva

McQueen. It’s a popular answer for a reason.

http://twitter.com/democracydiva Democracy Diva

McQueen. It’s a popular answer for a reason.

Anonymous

McQueen, hands-down, no thought required.

http://twitter.com/ashinyoconnor Aisling O’Connor

ODLR. Blows me away in chic-itude.

Anonymous

Gianni Versace, oh I miss him. One of his shows, sitting with Elton & Princess Di…… tonight I am ordering a beer. keeping it real for the real woman challenge.

Anonymous

Holy moly, Kors has on white jeans?!?

Anonymous

alert the media! is it really Kors? or is it his happy twin?

Anonymous

Yes, yes… I was trying to come up with some of these names when I was posting, and y’all had them – Poiret, Worth, Fortuny (I did some TM work for the non-clothing side a few years back), Sciap (some TM work there, too), Bill Blass (definitely did TM work for him nearly 30 years ago), Claire McCardell. And yes, Alexander McQueen.

http://www.katymcdermott.com KatyMightHave

Dior, perhaps? In the “New Look” era? (I’m not well-schooled enough in fashion to know exactly which year.) Oh, and I love the bar this week. I’d like a big, chewy red zin. Served by a big, chewy waiter…

Anonymous

Coco Chanel all the way…..not even sure she ever did a runway show but gotta go with a classic.

sarah jacobs

Lots of folks are expressing Chanel love, for sheer inventiveness and also because she was so good and respectful of her workers, Vionnet. I love Claire McCardle and Vera Maxwell…but i don’t know if their fashion shows were as much show as fashion…for showy i would go for charles james whose clothes are actaully pretty kinky…they look like classic evening gowns except that he will transform the back of a dress into a giant …but tasteful butt.Ralph rucci is his spiritual heir..his clothes look regular from far away until you realize that they are very quietly slighty bizarre.

http://www.facebook.com/samuel.j.donovan Samuel Joesph Donovan

YSL’s Ballet Russe. It apparently brought people to tears.

http://www.facebook.com/samuel.j.donovan Samuel Joesph Donovan

YSL’s Ballet Russe. It apparently brought people to tears.

Anonymous

Dear god this is fun. I’d forgotten that collection. It made such an impression on my larval mind, I was too small to wear so much fabric effectively but god knows I tried & then concentrated on tall skinny young men who’d go about in public with flowing embroidered blouses and richly trimmed coats (hard to find, at least ones who wanted to date girls, in NC in 1977).

In the end, I’ll always have the boots.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_X2ZWPX5XOLWWKJ7WIOZZ5GFIYM Jeff

Coco Chanel. Alexander McQueen. Halston

Anonymous

Dior 1955. Also, would love to see Edith Head’s designs for Grace Kelly on a runway. And wouldn’t Rudy Gernreich be fun?

Susan Crawford

Oh, am I glad to settle in at this lovely rooftop bar after a hectic few days! I’ll take a perfectly chilled flute of Veuve Clicquot and a plate of chocolate-dipped strawberries, and while I’m waiting, I will dream that I am front row at McQueen’s “Highland Rape” show – or ANY of his amazing shows, for that matter. And it would be heavenly to shoot back in time for Lacroix’s “pouf-skirt” extravaganza back in the naughty eighties for sheer over-the-top exuberance. From today’s crop of designers, put me at Haider Ackermann, or any Chanel show and I’ll be a happy clam!

As for designing for real women with (gasp) hips and (double-gasp) breasts, I fully expect Oliviererie to fall apart at the fragile seams. The sight of curves will send this poor child right over the edge. JoshClinique clearly finds the prospect of it all to be insulting and beyond the realm of possibility, thus making me want to rush him into the Brother sewing room and surge his lips closed once and for all. The others are going to have “issues”, but I’m betting Bert will, indeed, remain calm at the prospect of working with a client with a bit of amplitude. I just hope he doesn’t end up doing the matronly schtick.

Ah, the champagne and strawb have arrived, my shoes are kicked off, and I’m SOOO glad to be here to raise my glass with you folks! I’m celebrating a tiny bit of good news in a dear relative’s brave fight with advanced pancreatic cancer, so I’m starting my evening with a toast to her, and to an evening of fun at the T-Lounge.

muzan-e

I’m not anticipating matronly from Bert, simply on the strength of his pre-show work and the general perspective he’s expressed so far. Working with a woman’s aerodynamics seems to be what Bert is actually all about: clean lines, elegant tailoring, graceful motions.

Unfortunate irony: Olivier, too, is wedded firmly to impeccable tailoring – but unlike Bert, he has no interest in applying it to practical applications. I love the contestant who last week pointed out that he’s a minimalist; that’s true in so many senses of the word. I adore the guy, but this challenge is going to distress him.

Anonymous

Elsa Schiaparelli

http://twitter.com/WarthenKen Ken Warthen

Oops hit enter too soon! Was going to add the time around 1937 or ’38 when she was working with Dali.

Anonymous

My choice: The Versace show when the real supermodels (Campbell,Turlington, Evangelista, and Crawford) walked down the runway arm-in-arm and lip- synching “Freedom”. I would die. Happily.

Anonymous

I just ‘liked’ lilibetp for the Dior New Look show so that’s my vote. I don’t have enough fashion history to name many others. I did recently see the Balenciaga show at the DeYoung museum and if he ever did a runway fashion show in the style of today, oh yes, that would have been amazing.

Now, what to drink, what to drink…. we’re in a tropical paradise, I think a pitcher of mai tais.

Anonymous

i’ll bring my glass.

Anonymous

My late aunt was a model in the 50s. Any show she did would be wonderful to see.

Today–I’d really like to see more from Seth Aaron & Chris March.

Anonymous

Hey when does Chris March’s show start/run?
- Anonymous
  
  I think it starts in early October

Anonymous

Dior or Balenciaga. First ones that popped into my head. Happy to see others TLo-ers would be with me in the seats! Let’s get this party started! I’ll have a Sancerre – verrrrry cold please.

aimee_parrott

Ooh, I love the new TLounge. I want to go to there, and drink something frosty.

As for which show I’d go to — McQueen!

Anonymous

I’d like to see early Yves Saint Laurent or McQueen, though scottyf got me thinking about the exquisite Balenciaga.

As far as PR, which I’ll catch tomorrow, I find myself caring less and less. Too much drama and not enough designing. I just finished watching PR Australia season 3 and I enjoyed it so much more. The drama factor was nowhere near the level of PR U.S. and the final three actually had some talent and each came up with a relatively viable and cohesive collection. But I will admit it wasn’t the same without our Tim.

Anonymous

*evil laughter* And here we go, it’s the plus-size challenge! Kind of. Can’t wait to see Anthony Ryan go down… seriously dude, if you can’t design something amazing for any size, you have no business calling yourself a designer. Quit yer bitchin and make something fabulous.

My answer to the Question of the Week: I’d have to go with Alexander McQueen, when he was still alive.

Anonymous

*evil laughter* And here we go, it’s the plus-size challenge! Kind of. Can’t wait to see Anthony Ryan go down… seriously dude, if you can’t design something amazing for any size, you have no business calling yourself a designer. Quit yer bitchin and make something fabulous.

My answer to the Question of the Week: I’d have to go with Alexander McQueen, when he was still alive.

tripletmom96

i agree that bert and kimberly will both take things in stride and make something that actually fits their client while the rest will be whining about how they just don’t DO clothes for ordinary women…..

as for fashion shows – oh, what i would give to have been a woman of means in the 19th century and seeing a cf worth show…. several years ago i saw a victorian fashion show put on by a wonderful gentleman who collects vintage clothing and he has a couple of original worth gowns – what spectacular pieces they are!

tripletmom96

i agree that bert and kimberly will both take things in stride and make something that actually fits their client while the rest will be whining about how they just don’t DO clothes for ordinary women…..

as for fashion shows – oh, what i would give to have been a woman of means in the 19th century and seeing a cf worth show…. several years ago i saw a victorian fashion show put on by a wonderful gentleman who collects vintage clothing and he has a couple of original worth gowns – what spectacular pieces they are!

Susan Crawford

Thinking a bit more about T Lo’s question of the week: YSL’s Russian folkloric show would have been amazing to see in person, and a couple of folks have mentioned Bill Blass, who just epitomizes New York Upper East Side chic. My mother, bless her soul, was an early fit model for Mr. B. (among others) and she used to go on and on about how much fun it was to work with him. He was all business, 100% the fashion pro, but all the while, he would be telling hilarious stories, making everyone giggle and doing it all with class. His shows must have been loads of fun – especially the post-show celebrations!

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1264609232 Samantha Ritchie

Elsa Schiaparelli!

Anonymous

Alexander McQueen!

Anonymous

Chanel, darling…

Anonymous

A Dior show….

Lovely bar in Bali-I”ll just have to fantasize that I”m there rather than here paiting a door….

margaret meyers

Charles James.

And if Michael Kors is dealing with nasty stereotypes he needs to drop the lamb chop (so expense-account lunch) and put a poke chop in the pants with that bottle of beer. You are never going to see lamb chops at Golden Corral.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Michelle-Shields/1200782178 Michelle Shields

yeah I get to watch tonight!
Valentino!

http://twitter.com/1carmelita 1carmelita

YSL. I wear Elle every day and even in old jeans & a tshirt it makes me feel wonderful.
After last week, I want to stop caring about this show, but alas, I know I will watch to the end. It has gotten so chilly here today. I need something to warm me up. I think I’ll have a Cointreau.

Rand Ortega

Malin Ackerman is 1 of those people I can’t stand: Gorgeous,tall, talented, smart & incredibly funny. She’s stupid hilarious on “Children’s Hospital”.
My answer is twofold:
Past Show: To have been in the audience when YSL introduced the 1st model of color to walk the runway.
Present Show: Oscar De La Renta. His aesthetic is mesmerizing!

Anonymous

Oh dear. These “real women” challenges just annoy me because they shouldn’t be such a struggle for designers. Designers have to be able to design for real people if they want to sell their clothes commercially, not just for anorexic models… Anyway, I’m just grumpy about designers because I had to go shopping today and had trouble fitting my real world 21-year-old size 4/6 body.

And I almost forgot… McQueen fashion show, hands down.

Anonymous

Valentino Garavani.

http://twitter.com/IfIwasasculptor Erin Leahy

McQueen. No contest.

Anonymous

i’ll join you there. can i bring my queen-sized mai tai made with 151 with me? or can we get the late mcqueen to do a runway show here in bali? after all, it is paradise.

Anonymous

I want to watch any Valentino. Any of them. His clothes were just wonderful.

Anonymous

Now I see why there are always so many pages to sort through to find the beginning of the episode – the lounge starts FOUR HOURS before the show starts!

Anonymous

Mary Quant.

Anonymous

Did Edith Head ever have a runway show? I would have loved to see it, if she did.

http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

as per:
adrian.

Anonymous

I think that I would’ve liked to have seen Halston or Givenchy in their prime.

http://twitter.com/TMamBo Therese Bohn

Hubert de Givenchy from the whole time he designed for Audrey Hepburn!

Eclectic Mayhem

That’s exactly why I went for Givenchy. *high five*

Anonymous

If you could see one famous designer’s (living or dead) runway show in person, whose would it be?

Madeleine Vionnet. I’d kill. Even more than for Chanel.

Susan Crawford

I have a feeling Anya might just do a great job with this challenge. Why? Because thus far, her designs – and her personal aesthetic – tend to be loose, bo-ho chic, flowy and sort of “forgiving” in a good way. Women with curves could easily feel comfortable and stylish in Anya’s designs, and could fill them out in a great, sexy way. But we’ll see what client Anya draws, and how much Anya is willing to push her own envelope to fill a client’s wishes.

I always enjoy the real-woman ”client” challenges which so often erupt into epic battles of ego and control. There’s always that judging moment when someone gets raked over for abandoning their design aesthetic and caving in totally to a demanding client, and someone else gets reamed because he/she was so rigid and unyielding and the hapless client is miserable and ill-served. This is a challenge that sort of leaves some nice wiggle room for the quieter, more strategic players to emerge and conquer, so I expect there ARE going to be some surprises this evening.

BTW, did anyone happen to catch the news-clip of the Elizabeth Taylor jewel collection to be auctioned later this year by Christie’s? The collection is touring prior to the auction, and it’s in Russia now – some of La Liz’s iconic gowns are also going on the block – including at least ONE Valentino, I believe. (I’m picturing Olivieriere cowering beneath Elizabeth’s bosoms . . . poor, wee little birdie.)

Isn’t it time for another bottle of bubbly? I’m buying, so raise your hand if you need a refill, dahlings!

Anonymous

Only problem with Anya’s designs for non-model looking women is that they are cut down to the waist practically. If you have bigger breasts, that just looks slutty.
- Susan Crawford
  
  Yes, Anya will have to rein it in on the decollete for this challenge – unless, of course she ends up with a client with a yen for that classic slutty look. And by Gawd, don’t we all have a teeny soft spot for those all-out slutty gals? Even Anderson Cooper loves him some Snookie, right?

http://www.GiftedCollector.com Nancy Abrams

I care so little about this season that I didn’t realize it’s on tonight until I saw this post.

Since I came to Project Runway in the 4th or 5th season, I decided to do the Season 3 marathon on Style. Then I read all of the TLo posts for that season. Now I understand about Uli/Anya, the Angry Little Peanut, Vincent, the Laura love, etc. It’s like watching a different show. Can you imagine this season’s designers being sent to Paris first class by Lifetime?

http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

how do you find season 3 online? i havent been able to & i’ve looked.
http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

how do you find season 3 online? i havent been able to & i’ve looked.
http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

how do you find season 3 online? i havent been able to & i’ve looked.
- Anonymous
  
  Style network shows the Bravo seasons (1-5) sometime. I’m not sure what the schedule is though.

Anonymous

Schiaparelli in the 30′s for my fashion show, please. Still working on getting the kids to sleep, and then it’s PR time!

http://twitter.com/cluckerdoodle Remy S

John Galliano.

muzan-e

Have I mentioned how out-of-place I ought to be here? Being that I grasp next to nothing about fashion and couldn’t for the life of me think of a single, specific designer that I’d sell kidneys to view? *g* Except that suddenly I remembered…

Guo Pei.

The single most beautiful thing that I’ve seen presented here.
One of the very few shows that explains to me the gorgeous collision of ArtFashionTheatreFairytaleMagic.
At the bottom of the post you wrote:

Is it so wrong that we want to live in that world? Wouldn’t it be great if, one day of the week, we all agreed to dress like this? Sure, it would be uncomfortable, and you can forget about anyone working on your car for you, but wouldn’t all that beauty be worth it?

Why yes, yes it would.

Anonymous

Thanks for bringing this post/designer up – I’d never have dredged the name up from my brain but it was lovely to go back and see it again. I’ve got other favorites from not-US/Europe shows (some of the Indian shows), but you just can’t beat complicated hand work in gorgeous color for fascination.

Anonymous

Of designers whose names we know, I’m going with McQueen. But I would really love to go back to the 1600s and see who started the French down that crazy road. We would have to institute runway shows, but hey, isn’t that what a DeLorean is for?

Regarding the lack of “runway chaff”: ARE YOU KIDDING? This whole group is runway chaff when you compare them to previous seasons. I will allow as how the final collections showed that a few of them have some talent and creativity, but they sure haven’t shown it during the season.

I’m pretty much watching for two reasons: 1. So I can be happy when Clinique is finally booted, and 2. To watch Kimberly be the grown-up. She’s not warm and fuzzy, but she’s such a calm spot in that sea of cray-cray.

Anonymous

Of designers whose names we know, I’m going with McQueen. But I would really love to go back to the 1600s and see who started the French down that crazy road. We would have to institute runway shows, but hey, isn’t that what a DeLorean is for?

Regarding the lack of “runway chaff”: ARE YOU KIDDING? This whole group is runway chaff when you compare them to previous seasons. I will allow as how the final collections showed that a few of them have some talent and creativity, but they sure haven’t shown it during the season.

I’m pretty much watching for two reasons: 1. So I can be happy when Clinique is finally booted, and 2. To watch Kimberly be the grown-up. She’s not warm and fuzzy, but she’s such a calm spot in that sea of cray-cray.

Anonymous

Of designers whose names we know, I’m going with McQueen. But I would really love to go back to the 1600s and see who started the French down that crazy road. We would have to institute runway shows, but hey, isn’t that what a DeLorean is for?

Regarding the lack of “runway chaff”: ARE YOU KIDDING? This whole group is runway chaff when you compare them to previous seasons. I will allow as how the final collections showed that a few of them have some talent and creativity, but they sure haven’t shown it during the season.

I’m pretty much watching for two reasons: 1. So I can be happy when Clinique is finally booted, and 2. To watch Kimberly be the grown-up. She’s not warm and fuzzy, but she’s such a calm spot in that sea of cray-cray.

Anonymous

I always wanted to see a Lacroix show

Anonymous

Speaking as a woman of considerable size, I wish they would freaking cut jeans right for me.

The fit model for Jones New York is apparently my body twin, but I can’t afford JNY for everything I own. I need some cheap jeans once in a while!

Anonymous

Speaking as a woman of considerable size, I wish they would freaking cut jeans right for me.

The fit model for Jones New York is apparently my body twin, but I can’t afford JNY for everything I own. I need some cheap jeans once in a while!

Anonymous

My answer: Paris Fashion Week, Viktor and Rolf, Spring 2010. Tulle, chainsaws, brilliant. I’ve always wanted to see those pieces up close.

Pre-show pop quiz:

This week His Royal Hissyfit, Lord of the Bitchpants will:

a) get his leather thong all in a bunch and go off on someone undeservedly
b) wear something so bright that it is visible from space
c) cry for his dearly departed mommy
d) have the editing monkeys rubbing their hands in glee
e) all of the above

Anonymous

My answer: Paris Fashion Week, Viktor and Rolf, Spring 2010. Tulle, chainsaws, brilliant. I’ve always wanted to see those pieces up close.

Pre-show pop quiz:

This week His Royal Hissyfit, Lord of the Bitchpants will:

a) get his leather thong all in a bunch and go off on someone undeservedly
b) wear something so bright that it is visible from space
c) cry for his dearly departed mommy
d) have the editing monkeys rubbing their hands in glee
e) all of the above

Joe J

Bryce is either going to win, or going home this week, I think. And I don’t think he’s going to win.

Damn, I didn’t notice there are now twice as many guys as girls left.

Joe J

Bryce is either going to win, or going home this week, I think. And I don’t think he’s going to win.

Damn, I didn’t notice there are now twice as many guys as girls left.

Anonymous

STFU, Josh and Laura!

Anonymous

STFU, Josh and Laura!

Anonymous

“Cuz I KNOW we’re all mourning” RUDE BITCHES

http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

I wanted to lay a hurtin’ on someone when Laura said that.If they didn’t like Becky’s designs, I get that. But I’d like to know what she did that was so personally offensive to them.
- Eclectic Mayhem
  
  I’ve been thinking about this too because I just don’t understand the level of derision Becky was subjected to.
  
  Kimberley had a thing about the fact that Becky – apparently – stared a lot. I suspect it was simply something Becky did while she was thinking! Anya has allied herself with anyone she thought would be useful and Laura seems to be offended/disgusted by anyone content and comfortable in a curvy bod. She really is very shallow and quite unpleasant. The only plus I can find about her is that at least she’s not two-faced about it! She’ll just be nasty right in front of you…
  
  Becky also started out in the other girls’ room at Atlas (with admittedly obvious runway-fodder designers) so there might even have been a ‘them and us’ feeling right from the get go.
  
  I hate to see people treated so badly. Becky seemed genuinely surprised when Josh and Anya were so disrespectful and rude during the Heidi vanity challenge and she didn’t really recover after that.
  - http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife
    
    You know, I didn’t think about the roommate set-up being a reason, but it wouldn’t surprise me, considering how irrational and petty a few of the designers are.
    
    I also hate to see people treated they way Josh and Anya, and Laura, treated Becky. Granted, we see a mere fraction of what happens, but I never saw even a flash of bad behavior from Becky. I just wish she had been tougher and hadn’t let them get to her. (Actually, what I really wish is that they hadn’t been such assholes in the first place) They all deserved a middle finger from her.

Anonymous

Yeah I’m sure fabric price is you’re problem Josh.

Anonymous

Ah, no more immunity! let the bitchery begin!

Anonymous

HAHAHA! Watch the larger men have the thinner wives.

MilaXX

and just that fast Josh and Laura fulfilled the douche bag requirement

Anonymous

Wow. They didn’t waste too much time before they slung the fat comments, did they?

Anonymous

And Oliviereiriei is in the douche column

Anonymous

Word. Such an ugly comment, and not one iota of shame on his face.
- Anonymous
  
  What did he say, I missed the comment because of a little one.
  - Anonymous
    
    He said, of the last remaining four men to choose, “We’re left with all these FAT people, which is fine, but not when I’m making clothes”. I personally would not have called them “fat”.
  - Anonymous
    
    He was pouty because he was left with “the fat people to choose from”, and something to the effect of designer clothes not looking good on them.

Anonymous

BWAAAAAAAAA-HA-HA!

MilaXX

and chubby man chosen last, why don’t they just use the button bag for this?

http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

And chubby man turned out to be kind of cool.

I wish they’d use the button bag anytime the designers have to be teamed up with other people.

Anonymous

what **ckers…. Most all of these “designers” are punks…….

Joe J

Many of their clients seem to be as well, no?

Anonymous

I’m not sure these men even know their wives.

Anonymous

Really. These are very simple questions.

“What stores does she go to?”
“I dunno”
“What colors does she like?”
“No idea.”

http://twitter.com/phreddd F. Eloy Vaughn

When Olivier made the “fat” remark, I wanted to punch him. Anyone else?

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=12500056 Joseph Lamour

I will revel in his elimination. For his comments in this episode alone.
Anonymous

Me!! Please, I wanna Bitch Slap him for that remark. And next round on me!

Anonymous

God, are these guys especially clueless?

Anonymous

Some of them seem to be oinking…..

Anonymous

LOL clueless men. And Bert “Anthony’s basically focused on her breasts…”

Anonymous

Oh those pesky boobs. Poor LOlivier.

Anonymous

Olivier hates boobies. And I’m so not suprised…

Anonymous

I don’t like women having boobs. Um, yeah.

MilaXX

wait Oliver, tits get in the way of your design but you make women’s wear?

Anonymous

Milaxx ) Have you seen what he designs ? If you look at his finale show – he could just as easily put men in – I think the eyeborws are attempt to make the mdels more masculine
- MilaXX
  
  yeah I’ve seen it. I’ve also seen androgyny done 1,000x’s better than what he attempted.
Anonymous

Seriously. WTF?

Anonymous

I like Viktor’s question – where would she shop

Anonymous

Basically, Olivier wants his models built like men.

Anonymous

I think Oliver would be happy if he could just design for a clothes hanger……

Anonymous

You have nailed our little Precious Moments designer!

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2IVH65NRJLZB7MQ6CCXQUBDJ6U Melanie H

Of course Olivier prefers women to be “flat” because it makes a nicer line. Learn to be flexible precious!

Anonymous

Does Olivier realize that most women actually have a body with curves? Clothes are mostly meant to be worn, not admired on a flat dress form

Anonymous

These pesky broads wanting to actually wear clothes really get in the way of Olivier’s fashion designing, don’t they?

He’s irritating me more than Josh! That shouldn’t even be humanly possible.
- Anonymous
  
  Olivierereieire’s theme song for this episode could be Rex Harrison singing “Why Can’t Women Be Like Men” from My Fair Lady
- Anonymous
  
  I”ve not found him offensive before, but he was, in the vernacular, “pissin’ my shit off!”

Anonymous

No. . . boys.
Olivierieir you sound like an idiot

Joe J

In my head, I am envisioning Olivier curled in a little ball on the ground, sobbing hysterically, while clones of Adele dance by singing “Tits and Ass” from “A Chorus Line”.

Anonymous

LMAO.

There there, Olivier. Just try to picture yourself in a safe place, you know, somewhere between Beigetown and Androgeny Grove.
- Anonymous
  
  little precious olive’s final collection could be titled “in the land of greige androgeny, where there is no color or gender.”

Anonymous

Bert’s husband-client is already irritating me. And how many times will we hear the word boobs in one episode?

Anonymous

Bert’s husband-client is already irritating me. And how many times will we hear the word boobs in one episode?

Anonymous

He seems like a real catch, huh?

Anonymous

Oh, precious Moments is so cute. He’s a fashion designer and he doesn’t know what a D cup is? He’ll probably make a piece of crap and the judges will give him a pass.

Anonymous

precious little olive has spent far too much time in his own little world.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=12500056 Joseph Lamour

Like I said, for these comments Olivierererere is making, I will revel in his elimination.

Anonymous

I can’t believe poor Bert got that guy who is fixated on breasts. Maybe he doesn’t realize that Bert isn’t gaga over breasts. Thank god, one of the women didn’t choose him!

And poor Olivier of the bee stung lips. What would he do with that guy? lol

Anonymous

I’m imagining Olivieireirere with the dirty vicar from Monty Python, as the vicar babbles about women with “great big knockers!!!!!!”

Anonymous

Holy guacamole. Poor Wiktor…He jut can’t handle actual anatomy.

How do you get to be a grown-up of ANY persuasion and have no clue what a DD is???

Anonymous

Well a friend of my mother worked in lingerie for a major department store for years. And we had this weird conversation where she contended that DD were not necessarily large. Well (as a DD) i pointed out that well they are larger than A’s – and she said – God help me – not necessarily???
- Anonymous
  
  She’s actually correct. A DD is bigger than an A for any given band measurement (E.g. a 32DD is bigger than a 32A), but the cup measurement is proportional to the band measurement, so a 42A may mean a bigger actual breast than a 32DD. (I don’t know for those actual measurements, but that’s the principle.)
Anonymous

That wasn’t Viktor. That was Oliviereire.

Jen Kach

I absolutely adore Tim Gunn! To Olivier about bra sizes: “I don’t have personal experience.” Brilliant!

Anonymous

‘Boobs are trouble.’

Isn’t that what Carrie’s mom said to her right before the prom? (and we know how that ended.)

–GothamTomato

Anonymous

Dirty pillows!
- Anonymous
  
  They are breasts mama and every woman has them!

Brittany Kearney

I say all of us DD cups should beat Olivieiereriei with our bras until he stops acting like breasts are the anti-Christ

Anonymous

I am in. )
- Anonymous
  
  Me too.
Susan Crawford

Hilarity ensues!

Anonymous

Okay, I realize that fashion models tend to be rather flat-chested, but how in the name of heaven can anyone aspire to be a clothing designer and not comprehend that eventually his designs will have to fit non-models? And how can anyone call themselves a designer and not even know what a cup size is?

Anonymous

Opposite ends of the fashion spectrum for me; I’d like to see a late Madam Gres show (or an early Andre Courrege show just for fun.)

Anonymous

Poor little fey/pretentious Olive. She knows nothing of boobs. I wish some gal with huge double D’s would come in a slap her around with a big pair of jugs. LOL

Anonymous

Viktor not only can’t deal with actual female anatomy, he also doesn’t know how to work with a client? And he wants to be a designer?

Anonymous

I think you mean Olivievierier. Viktor is doing an amazing job of working with a client.

Joe J

The irony here is that Olivier seems to have one of the most helpful clients, as far as articulating what he thinks his wife/girlfriend wants.

Anonymous

Goodness, you’d think they were designing for people with a third arm. OK, if you are a man who wants to be a fashion designer for women, I now think you should be required to dress in drag for a day. You must go to a grocery store, shop for lingerie, go on a run in a jog bra, and wear an evening dress out. Then you might understand breasts. After all, even amongst red carpet women, there are women like Kate Winslet, Christina Hendricks, and Jennifer Lopez. You gotta dress them all, Olivier.

Anonymous

Olive Garden is a mess.

Anonymous

These women look beautiful. All of them. they’re beautiful…

Anonymous

Oh Blenley, you are Barbie!

Anonymous

Laura is truly vile. She seems to have had very complimentary editing lately, but I think it’s now apparent she’s been nasty all along. “How did he snag HER?” Laura is SO icky. Send her straight to Real Housewives.
- Anonymous
  
  Alas, Bravo has yet to cast “the Real Househos of St. Louis”, hence Blenley’s casting on PR
- Anonymous
  
  Alas, Bravo has yet to cast “the Real Househos of St. Louis”, hence Blenley’s casting on PR
  - Anonymous
    
    also i dont think laura could be a real housewive because her husband would lock her in a dungeon and leave her wherever they went on their honeymoon.
- Anonymous
  
  Alas, Bravo has yet to cast “the Real Househos of St. Louis”, hence Blenley’s casting on PR
- Anonymous
  
  Alas, Bravo has yet to cast “the Real Househos of St. Louis”, hence Blenley’s casting on PR
- Anonymous
  
  Alas, Bravo has yet to cast “the Real Househos of St. Louis”, hence Blenley’s casting on PR
- Anonymous
  
  Alas, Bravo has yet to cast “the Real Househos of St. Louis”, hence Blenley’s casting on PR
- Anonymous
  
  I really don’t know why everyone is always on Laura’s case sooo much. I think that most people on here just want to dislike her more than they have especially valid reasons. Yes, she’s a well-off, pretty, and occasionally snobbish young woman, but I don’t think she’s ever been outright mean on the show. She’s been blunt or tactless at times, but who isn’t. Her negative comments have been few and far between compared to most of the other designers, and I can’t imagine calling her vile as justified at all. It just seems that she can be shoved into the “mean girl” archetype, so a lot of people are unjustly throwing their issues with the high school “means girls” onto her, but she certainly seems like a fine person to me.

Anonymous

anthony is sweet

Anonymous

And in other news, Team Anthony Ryan are basically adorable, the lot of them.

Anonymous

well the women are beautiful…not so sure about their taste in men, though.

Anonymous

Laura just asked how the bald guy snagged his wife!!!! How insulting!

Anonymous

Apparently women only marry for looks or money or both. Women never marry a man because he’s nice, intelligent, makes them laugh, gives them goosebumps with a look, etc. Nope, couldn’t possibly just love the guy because he’s a great guy.
http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

She gets more shallow by the week.

scottyf

Joshua M. is in trouble.

Unfortunately for him, his client has taste.

Anonymous

Oliver is so perturbed that his accent cutting in and out more noticeably than usual.

Anonymous

I think Oliver might be an idiot savant…. accent on idiot….he makes Rainman look like a genius.

Anonymous

Aaah yes, Precious Moments; clients are difficult to please.

Anonymous

*I* have never worked with a client before??? (Oliviereireireiui)

*” I want people to wear what I design?” Really?

spooki C

Olivier and Josh need to switch clients…

Anonymous

Olivier is just lost. Did he understand what she just said??? Didn’t have a clue…

Anonymous

I think we all need to give Olivier a break. In one day he’s working with clients, learning about boobs and having his first aneurysm. It’s a big day for Olivier.

Anonymous

But after I give him a break, can I just slap him?
Anonymous

But after I give him a break, can I just slap him?
Anonymous

But after I give him a break, can I just slap him?
Anonymous

But after I give him a break, can I just slap him?

Anonymous

Why would bryce buy THAT shade of Pink

Anonymous

I bet the light at Parsons and the light at Mood are really, really different (even if it’s florescent) and with all the competing fabric it was probably really hard to tell.
- Anonymous
  
  anthony ryan must’ve picked it for him.

Anonymous

Olivieierier: “I want to design clothes for women. Women with no boobs. And no color preferences. And they should not talk. They should just stand like flat-chested mutes and wear what I choose for them.”

Anonymous

And they should not be clients, either. Clients are baaaad.
Anonymous

And they should not be clients, either. Clients are baaaad.
Toto Maya

Don’t forget that they can’t be fat, either. He doesn’t mind fat women, as long as they don’t need to wear clothes.
Anonymous

I think he really wants to design for deaf/mute boys who like to wear dresses.

Anonymous

Oh, dear. Bryce is crying.

Anonymous

Oh, dear. Bryce is crying.

Anonymous

Bryce – loser edit?

Anonymous

Bryce – loser edit?

Anonymous

Bryce – loser edit?

Anonymous

Bryce – loser edit?

Anonymous

O
M
G

Totally cracked up wihen TIm tells Olivieirerieir that that he has time mgmt issues and the husband piped in

Anonymous

O
M
G

Totally cracked up wihen TIm tells Olivieirerieir that that he has time mgmt issues and the husband piped in

Anonymous

Olivier is like The Brother From Another Planet. He’s like he was just suddenly dropped to earth. Poor dear thing. I just want to bring him hot chocolate and a cuddly bunny and tell him it’s all gonna be ok.

But, I’m sure he’s not really that innocent.

Anonymous

He doesn’t deserve hot chocolate and cuddly bunnies. He should get only Diet Coke and cigarettes like the models he prefers.

http://twitter.com/Kamilaahh Kamil

Aw, crap monkeys; it seems like Josh/Oliver are getting the winners/losers edit. Hold me.

In answer to the posed question: McQueen, may he rest. As to which specific collection, I’m too horrified by the thought of Josh winning (especially given the way he’s behaving right now) to have much in the way of higher brain functions.

Anonymous

The only thing that could have made this better was if Olivier had gotten Bert’s boob maniac. That would have been solid gold comedy.

Anonymous

You’re right- that would have been hysterical! Damn, where’s producer manipulation when you really want it?
Anonymous

Didn’t one guy mention motorboating? I so wanted Olivier to ask “What is motorboating?”
- Anonymous
  
  *Olive faints dead away*
MilaXX

I think Oliver would have gone full fetal position in a corner with that much boob to work with.

Joe J

Instead of the hourglass figure, I have a feeling Olivier would be far more comfortable if the only glass object women’s bodies’ resembled is a test tube. And for crying out loud, his client is hardly roly-poly, zaftig, OR Rubenesque – she’s got a perfectly nice, normal figure.

Anonymous

does oliver hear with a British/Italian/Midwestern accent as well as speak with one?

Anonymous

It’s just ridiculus.

Rebecca Zmarzly

So, as per Anthony Ryan, all the other contestants are helping Bryce out because he’s in a funk/hole/can’t design his way out of a paper bag, yet Becky gets reamed last week because “no one told her what she was doing wrong”? What a load of horse hockey.

Anonymous

So, I am coming in late but so far I a embarrassed for some of these designers for their lack of tact and proffessionalism. Why are some gay men so perplexed and offended by breasts? If you are going into fashion, you had better get on board with womans bodies. Not all women are going to come size 2 with small, pert breasts. It’s really quite offensive how some of these guys are handling this. And Laura? Seriously? you hope she’s a “gold digger”? Ugh…..

Anonymous

Oh, and my designer to see a collection in person? Madame Gres. She was so ahead of her time and such timeless designs.
Anonymous

Laura is an ugly, ugly person.
- http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife
  
  Yep. She’s pretty much everything I (and lots of other people) thought she was after the first episode.

Anonymous

I like the vibrant pink far better than the slightly pepto pink

Anonymous

I like the vibrant pink far better than the slightly pepto pink

MilaXX

I do like Viktor’s

Joe J

Viktor really seems to be coming on strong lately. Thank goodness I don’t find him nearly as hateable as I did a few weeks ago.

Anonymous

What do fashion designers think a kimono looks like?

Anonymous

Quel suprise – Anya has no sleeves!

MilaXX

She is planning on sleeves but hasn’t attached them yet. Honestly I think it looks better without.
- Anonymous
  
  It’s hard to imagine sleeves on a one shouldered dress…
  - MilaXX
    
    I actually liked her finished look. I just wish the sleeve had been a little shorter so it didn’t hang over her hand like that.

MilaXX

I think Anya’s looks better sleeveless

Anonymous

Ooh, I really want Anya to put a white band at the top to clean up that neckline.

Anonymous

I’m not watching the episode since I’m waiting for the TLo recaps, but I’ll sit here in the corner anyway and have something warm to make up for the greyness outside. It’s up to the bartenders to decide if I’m legal in Bali or not.

Also, I’d love to see a Viktor and Rolf show. I love the crazy. Also the Aramani show with the fabric that looks like liquid. Anne Hathaway wore one of the dresses when she hosted the Oscars. (Don’t remember which one that was, and my internet’s acting up enough that I don’t want to search for it atm.)

Anonymous

I think everyone is legal in Bali. =)
- Anonymous
  
  Brilliant.

http://twitter.com/Kamilaahh Kamil

Wow. Viktor’s is amazing. Didn’t see that coming. I figured he’d be too vexed about a greater than size 2 model to focus.

My bad.

Anonymous

I think Victor is a good designer. Josh’s is a surprise.
Anonymous

I’d say he has been one of the most consistent and generally pretty good
- http://twitter.com/Kamilaahh Kamil
  
  Oh, I agree. He’s my current favorite – although with this group, that is so subject to change. x.x
  
  I just figured he’d freak way more about a non-size 2 client than he did. After the way he went on about the models he likes in his pre-show interview, I figured he’d have more trouble than he has. Of course he has a fairly slender model, so that has to have helped him. Poor Oliver. . . .

Anonymous

Bert’s dress does nothing for that woman’s figure. It fits horribly. Ugly ugly ugly dress.

http://www.facebook.com/thedon98 Donald De Leon

Laura, stop badmouthing Bert! Her comments are disgusting!

MilaXX

Bert’s client doesn’t have the waistline for that cut.

Anonymous

Laura took the BITCH pill tonight. I want to smack the smug snobby face of hers…..

Anonymous

A float in a parade! Everyone drink a shot!

Anonymous

fell off the couch laughing out loud at that one. God Bless Tim!!

Anonymous

Josh’s is actually cute!

Anonymous

Christian Lacroix.

Anonymous

SO Laura – I have tried to defend her. But the silly disgust at Bert’s – 1 it was cute and the woman liked it! and 2. is she going to imply that she is going to produce ONLY clothes made with 100% natural fabrics?

Anonymous

God, Oliviers accent is all over the place tonight. A couple of times it almost slipped away entiriely and then he quickly veered back to “fresh off the boat”. It’s so annoying…..

Anonymous

Why are these guys such assholes about their wives tits? You’d think they’d built them themselves…

Anonymous

Agreed! It’s just embarrassing.
http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

Oh, man, I know. If my husband talked like that on television he’d be served with divorce papers so fast he wouldn’t know what hit him. (That’s a total lie. But I’d be mighty pissed off.)

Anonymous

Bryce – I like the pink far more than the pink with gray and green – he got bad advice

Anonymous

Jeez isn’t that the third time Bryce has made that dress?

Anonymous

Apparently starting yet again!

Anonymous

Ugh. Josh is going to win. Bah. If he had done more like that for his collection I’d like his stuff, his personal style is horrid, when he has to design for a client apparently he does ok.

MilaXX

he only did good because his client likes plain and said no to the metalic thingys he had.
- Anonymous
  
  Well that is what I mean, when he has a client with an opinion and taste he does ok.
  - Anonymous
    
    I know. I think we were agreeing with you. lol
    - Anonymous
    - Anonymous
Anonymous

He wanted to put those metal things on it!!!

Lucky him with that client who just kept saying SIMPLE.
- http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife
  
  “When he said “simple”, I didn’t think he meant SIMPLE.” What the hell did Josh think he meant?

Rebecca Zmarzly

Well, at least ONE gay man in the room knows about breasticles. Firm indeed. Go Tim!

Anonymous

hope Josh doesn’t bling that dress p

Anonymous

Firm! Hahahahaha….

Anonymous

I like Josh and Viktor’s so far

Anonymous

That Olive boy is just too delicate for this world.

–GothamTomato

Anonymous

I hate it that I like Josh’s dress.

Anonymous

I feel the same way.
- Anonymous
  
  me too
  - Anonymous
    
    Well, it isn’t really “Josh’s” like other wins/passes have been before!

Anonymous

I wish Josh had gotten that broad from Dance Moms as a client. LOL

spooki C

I think the whole network would be destroyed by a drama llama stampede if that happened!
- http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart
  
  Wasn’t there a Real Housewives challenge on Bravo’s Fashion Show? Or something like that? I know I saw someone bitching about having to do design work for the Housewives…
Anonymous

Actually, that would make a great crossover challenge – to make a dress for those little girls to wear in a competition.
Anonymous

Even better, Oliveboy. Can you imagine him trying to handle her? He’d have a complete nervous breakdown.

Anonymous

Apparently Laura made her own outfit?

Anonymous

A NON-SPEAKING PERSON??? Oliveirieureio not quite in the Josh level of a-hole but working on it from another angle!

Anonymous

That was the moment my brain finally burst. I really honestly couldn’t believe I heard that. I STILL can’t believe I heard that.

Anonymous

Is Anthony Ryan’s head exploding? Who bandaged it?

http://www.facebook.com/thedon98 Donald De Leon

Ooh! The big pocket comment might be for Bryce!

Anonymous

Blenley, STFU.

Joe J

You know, I’m thinking it would have been a cool wildcard if one of the guys up on the runway was gay, and the challenge for the designer who picked him would be to make menswear.

Kimberly is scaring me. She and Olivier are two of the bottoms, I think. And damn Josh’s client for having TASTE, the witch.

Anonymous

Oliver is a real jerk. He wants a non-speaking woman!!! And the best part is that he has no idea what an asshole he is acting like. He thinks the woman is the problem! Every designer has to be able to make clients happy. Duh.

Anonymous

In Olivierierieriereireirererie’s fantasy world, his clients will be struck completely dumb by his genius, and quietly put on his clothes and never, ever, say a word. They will be given small, exquisitely designed cards that say “my designer is a genius”

Anonymous

That bitch Laura needs to shut up.

Anonymous

you missed the behind the scenes video from last week in which she said, “YAYYYYY OBVIOUSLY ALL THE PRETTY GIRLS GET PICKED FIRST!!!! … and HAHAHAHA obviously BECKY doesn’t fall into that category HAHAHAAHA”

wanted to slap a bitch. homegirl is regina george come to life except not fabulous.
- Anonymous
  
  Whuuuuuut….. I knew they had to have been editing out her nastiness. I’m so glad I don’t have to know her.
  
  Laura in one word is “ugly”.

Anonymous

WTF? Does Queen Laura have an opinion on EVERYONE?!!!!!!!

Anonymous

Um, were there some groans about the jewelry. LOL.

Anonymous

Piperlime is giving you jewelry…. because none of you would want the clothes the designers made for you :^)

Anonymous

Olive Garden is the proverbial hot mess.

Anonymous

Don’t undersell PA there Lifetime.

Anonymous

Project Accessory! Color me there!

Anonymous

Could I get a refill over here, please? The stress is killing me.

Anonymous

Oh, please let Olivier go home, he is being such a princess/bitch tonight and totally unproffessional. Since Josh lucked out and got a client with good taste and kept him in the safe zone, please let it be Olivier.

Anonymous

Why do I feel like on the runway Olivier is going to pull out a hand-fan and some smelling salts? Good grief, Aunt Pitty Pat. Calm down.

Anonymous

Oliviewere: “I don’t know nothin about boobs n babies!”
Anonymous

Oliviewere: “I don’t know nothin about boobs n babies!”
Anonymous

Oliviewere: “I don’t know nothin about boobs n babies!”

Anonymous

What does Devil Inside have to do with accessories? Because your dark side really digs leather cuffs and dangly earrings?

Anonymous

God, can I have a Scotch and soda, please? A double?

Anonymous

Can we petition Lifetime to not run those scary ‘Dance Moms’ commercials during PR??

–GothamTomato

http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

I’ll sign! I normally watch online (due to a crushingly sad lack of cable — thankfully I don’t mind spoilers:) but I was at my mom’s last week and watched it on her DVR. The Dance Moms were on EVERY commercial break.

Now I have a daughter. I have a daughter in dance. I do get very involved with my daughter’s activities (and my sons’). NOT ONCE have I felt the need to act like these people. NEVER… thought has not even crossed my mind. I find them upsetting to the point of wanting to track them down so I can slap them personally.
- Kat Chappell
  
  I danced from age 11 to 18, all at a very kind, supportive studio. I took a couple solos to competition, nothing major, but still competing. I saw an episode of Dance Moms while I was at the gym the other day; I came home, gave my mom a hug, and said “thank you for not being like THAT.”

Anonymous

I never heard of this actress person before.

Also I hate Lauras dress.

bpayne

She was in 27 Dresses and The Proposal
- Anonymous
  
  also, she was 100 percent naked in some farelly brothers movie, which made me feel awkward. i can never look at her the same way. if i were a contestant, id’ have been awkwardly giggling and blushing the whole time.
Toto Maya

Also she was in Watchmen, and unfortunately the worst actor in the entire movie, which made the nerd in me sad.
- Anonymous
  
  Made me sad, too. (I’m all nerd, so I can’t say it was just the “nerd in me”, lol.) She was at least ten years too young for that role.

Anonymous

Why are bras a Negative?

Anonymous

Blenely’s client walked like a Clydesdale

Joe J

Bert’s seems like the print is doing a lot of the work.

Joe J

Kimberly, that ass zipper made me physically recoil.

Anonymous

it was puckering!!! that zipper was puckering up her ass!!!! how did that look escape elimination? HOW?

Anonymous

all the men look so proud of their women! Sweet!!!

Anonymous

The judges won’t like it but Bert’s clients like it – a lot . Usually for Kors that is a negative

Josh’s is more simple than Bert’s – so I do not want to hear then say Bert’s is simple then praise Josh

Carol Melichar

These women are great models.Lots of energy and attitude.

Anonymous

Bryce in the bottom – the pockets are awful

Anonymous

Is it me, or is the runway show much better than it has been lately? Almost everything is decent.

Anonymous

Olive Garden is safe.

Anonymous

Wait a minute, is Olivier’s look the reincarnation of Kimberly’s look for Nina??

Anonymous

Viktor FTW.

MilaXX

hate the hem on Laura’s, Anthony”s looks juvenile., Bert”s is okay, Josh’s is great but thanks mostly to his client liking plain, this pink is Bryce’s best work ever, I like Kim’s it looks like something her client would wear. Olivier’s is the predictable snooze. Surprisingly I like Anya’s, Viktor’s is really good.

Anonymous

Could you imagine Kim’s client with Olivier. She had boobs and a butt! His head would have exploded. I mean he had trouble with his client’s itty bitty butt.
- MilaXX
  
  poor thing would have died

Anonymous

Viktor FTW again, if there’s any justice. Which, of course there isn’t.

Anonymous

Viktor FTW again, if there’s any justice. Which, of course there isn’t.

Anonymous

Viktor FTW again, if there’s any justice. Which, of course there isn’t.

Anonymous

Viktor FTW again, if there’s any justice. Which, of course there isn’t.

Anonymous

Oliver safe!? Grrrr.

Anonymous

What!

Anonymous

Oliver safe!? Grrrr.

Anonymous

Oliver safe!? Grrrr.

Anonymous

Is that a teal chiffon blouse?

Anonymous

Is that a teal chiffon blouse?

Anonymous

Laura sounds like a 3 year old spoiled brat

Anonymous

Laura sounds like a 3 year old spoiled brat

Anonymous

Laura sounds like a 3 year old spoiled brat

Anonymous

Laura sounds like a 3 year old spoiled brat

Anonymous

Oliver the Misogynist is safe.

Anonymous

Should we have not guessed that Olivierreeere would come around? THe edits seem to often work this way

Anonymous

Who is top? Who is bottom.

I didn’t like Bert’s or Anya’s or Bryce’s

Anonymous

Who is top? Who is bottom.

I didn’t like Bert’s or Anya’s or Bryce’s

Anonymous

Who is top? Who is bottom.

I didn’t like Bert’s or Anya’s or Bryce’s

Carol Melichar

Olivier dodged a bullet.

Anonymous

Again.

Carol Melichar

Olivier dodged a bullet.

Anonymous

Anthony, Bryce and Bert on the bottom. Anya, Josh and Viktor on top

http://www.facebook.com/thedon98 Donald De Leon

HUH??? Is this gonna be one of those judgings?

Anonymous

Olivier got a pass. Huh.

Bottom: Bryce, Bert, Anthony?
Top: Anya, Viktor, Josh?

Anonymous

Well now that we’ve got Olive safely off to a fainting couch, I’d say Bert might be in serious trouble and I would pick Viktor to win.

Anonymous

I hate to say it, but these women are better models than the crowd they’ve had this year. They actually look alive.

Anonymous

oh, also I didn’t care for Anthony Ryan’s. I can’t see him on the top.

Anonymous

teehehehe. i can. teehehehe.

Anonymous

Hey, steubenville…I picked same ones. Are we good, or what???

Anonymous

Anya, Viktor and Josh are top. Bert, Bryce and Anthony are bottom. Either Bert or Bryce will go, most likely Bryce. I’d give the win to Viktor but maybe Anya will win again having astounded the judges by making one sleeve.

Anonymous

I hope it isn’t Bryce because Bryce’s look is much better than Bert’s and Bert has been on the bottom three times now, I think.

Anonymous

I think I like Viktor’s the best and Anya’s the worst. Which is a shame, since she has immunity. And uh oh. Bert is the top or bottom. Which means bottom, since his isn’t that great and he’s been in the bottom a few too many times, which may mean A-U-F goes he, even though he got a horrible boob-obsessed moron and was perfectly nice and charming to him. Olivier and his geographically indecipherable accent are safe, which is a bitch, since he’s been such a baby all night. I also don’t think Bryce’s was that bad, but he has been getting the AUF edit, I think. But I love that Blenley thought she oughta win and that Kimberly would be in the bottom, since they both landed in the mediocre middle.

Anonymous

I really did not like Kimberly’s and I am surprised that she is in the safe zone.

Anonymous

i forgot about kimberly’s!! her girl looked like she was auditioning for the role of Skank in a ja rule video!!! like, are you serious judges?? how can the judges question anthony’s and bryce’s taste level when people like laura and kimberly put that crap down the runway? what the actual eff?

Anonymous

Hey, steubenville & lessax3…we nailed it…

Anonymous

Wow, I thought Anya’s half kimono was teh fug. I seriously thought she was in the bottom.

Anonymous

Am I the only one who hated Anya’s? Why are the judges worshipping her every week when most of it is mediocre?

Anonymous

No, I dislike it too. But I can see why someone else might like it.
- http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D25FA7JBTICUMUQRAD3KQJMAEI Carol
  
  Horrified that it’s in the top. Blech!
  - Ella B. Mudge
    
    I quit watching when they put her in the top and went to my computer to see what y’all are saying. This is the first episode that I’ve watched in almost its entirety and it will be the last. This show is stupid.
http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife

You’re not alone. I don’t like it either. I love the fabric she used, but it looks like there are a million things going on. Also, while I can appreciate a dress with one sleeve, the sleeve is too long, kind of sloppy, and a step too far IMO.
Kathleen Gillies

I really did not like her design. The sleeve was way too long and the asymmetrical hem… (if one would call it that) is horrifying. Too much design elements for such a busy print. It suffers from a multiple personality disorder.

Anonymous

OK, I hate Anya’s look – WTF is with the love these judges have for Anya??? I thought her dress last week was meh. Kors says it is fabulous?? Love to see that in his show?

Anonymous

I don’t get the continuing love for Anya. They keep fawning over her as she’s the second coming of Alexander McQueen. Please.
Toto Maya

It’s funny because normally I don’t get the Anya love and am sick of her, but I really liked her look this week and thought she deserved the win.

Anonymous

I HATE Anya’s. I’d put in the bottom three.

Anonymous

Ohmygod Anya is getting her face licked for that horrible dress.

Anonymous

Anya ftw!

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5KDTLDJA7ZBCPDP6HV4FZMJDII Indigo

You all are on crack, I love Anya’s. The flow, the print, the style

orgasmic

Anonymous

Anya’s is classy??? Put the crack pipe down, judges!!!

Joe J

Jesus, I forgot Josh had the same name as his client – I thought he was referring to himself in the third person; as if I needed a reason to hate him even more.

Anonymous

I hate that Bert is in the bottom – I like the lace. The clients LOVE it, He respected them. If liked his dress

Josh’s is boring to me.

Anonymous

Step away from the bedazzler, Miss Clinique Counter!

Anonymous

Teachers pet

Anonymous

Tough question, TLo! I don’t know if I can pick just one.

Anonymous

These judges are hitting the crack pipe hard tonite! I hate Anya’s thingy long/short/one sleeve/ no sleeve dress!

Anonymous

Me too. I thought it was a schizophrenic looking dress.
Anonymous

the judges have been hitting the crack pipe all season. this season is starting to reek of producer manipulation. and i know that’s just what people say when their faves are starting to collapse under the pressure but seriously. producer. manip. viktor’s boring, but give him the mother effing win, holy cow.

Anonymous

I want Victor’s outfit from head to toe. And Josh’s dress.

Rebecca Zmarzly

Uh, didn’t Becky and Kimberley make a jacket with that exact same silhouette?

emily mcginnis

i cannot believe that Anthony Ryan scored lower than Olivier.

Anonymous

I also would like to know the 80 year old grandma who wears V-neck, sleeveless dresses-what was Heidi smoking?
- Anonymous
  
  They were way harsh on Anthony’s very cute dress, and the client felt wonderful in it until the judges clawed it apart like Cinderella’s wicked stepsisters. Heidi has a lot of nerve judging anyone’s taste.
  - Anonymous
    
    Kors thinks she should have feathers in her hair? Um, no thanks. These two clients need to just go back home with their lovely, secure, adorable selves and forget the judging portion ever happened. She looks super-cute.
    - http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife
      
      I know. She looked adorable. Isn’t her husband the one who left her dress at the airport, and he wanted Anthony Ryan to recreate it? So, not only were the judges way too critical of Anthony’s design, but they were also attacking his client’s taste. And I think this all happened after Kors said “always listen to your client”.
      
      He made a mistake with the white belt, no doubt. But, crap, that’s just styling. I think he did a good job making a vintage-inspired dress. It looked well-made (although photos could disprove that later, of course), and the clients were both thrilled.
      
      I willingly admit that I’m biased towards Anthony Ryan, but I’m critical of him when I think he deserves it. I don’t think he belonged in the bottom. He should have been safe.
      
      Also, those huge glasses of his crack me right the hell up. They’re like twice the size of his adorable little face.
      
      Also, also: feathers? WTF Michael.
  - Anonymous
    
    THANK. YOU. exactly.

Anonymous

I am thinking of past seasons where the judges essentially say YOU DO NOT LIKE THAT UGLY OUTFIT DO YOU???

http://www.facebook.com/shawn.eric.hill Shawn Hill

They made Bryce’s client nearly cry, when she clearly liked her look, pockets and all.
http://www.facebook.com/shawn.eric.hill Shawn Hill

They made Bryce’s client nearly cry, when she clearly liked her look, pockets and all.

Anonymous

I think Victor should win. Satisfied his client, produced a well made garment, and made something original that had personality.

Anonymous

Viktor better the hell win this week. But, you know, I’m getting really tired of these luck challenges. Either you are lucky to get a decent stiltwalker or a decent team or (this week) a client with decent taste.

MilaXX

On second look I don’t like Bert’s dress on his client. It makes her look thick waisted and it’s too short for her.

Sea Elle

you can buy it anywhere so its bad. what about josh’s little black dress?

Anonymous

That dress does NOT fit her beautifully. It makes her look like she has a tummy bulge and she most definitely does not.

Anonymous

i agreeeee. this is why i think bert’s was the worst. that dress was hideous, and it made his client look bad, but unfortunately, because she has bad taste that somehow didn’t offend the judges enough, bert was safe. anthony ryan’s client’s bad taste was more offensive, so he got effed. it should’ve been between bryce and bert (or ehem laura) but poor bryce was so out of his element, and he knew it. he’s like the kids on idol who audition when they’re 15 but really should’ve waited like three years.

Anonymous

Hi Michael you’d rather that these folks make things that NOONE would wear?

Nice Nina – you just told the client who L O V E S the dress that she has no taste (because you slammed everything she wanted. So was Bert supposed to say – screw u

Anonymous

Hi Michael you’d rather that these folks make things that NOONE would wear?

Nice Nina – you just told the client who L O V E S the dress that she has no taste (because you slammed everything she wanted. So was Bert supposed to say – screw u

Anonymous

Heii… “I have that problem, too”. Too funny!

Anonymous

Heii… “I have that problem, too”. Too funny!

Anonymous

There’s too much going on in Bryce’s? the hell are they talking about.

Anonymous

I know — But what about Anya’s? There’s not too much going on there?
Anonymous

I don’t know. There really weren’t many details at all on that dress. It’s like they were searching for things to criticize. It wasn’t a bad dress.

BerlinerNYC

OMFG. “Tight, short, and shiny.” “I have that problem too.” I was squealing. Could PR get any more self-referential??

Anonymous

It has me wondering if she reads this blog, that’s for sure.
- Anonymous
  
  If she doesn’t, somebody around her does and quotes it. I know our gay daddies coined the phrase.

Anonymous

This is the best thing Bryce has done and I have a feeling he’s going to be gone with it. Oh, this ridiculous, ridiculous show. You’d a thought I would’ve learned my lesson after the Great Gretchen Debacle of 2010.

Anonymous

I know! But they have no problem with Anya’s all over the place mess of a dress! And I like pockets!

Anonymous

Damn it is hard to tell who is worse to these clients – for all the bitching behind their clients backs. . . at least most of the designers did not call the clients tasteless idiots.!!!!

Joe J

Michael Kors is just flinging insults haphazardly tonight. It’s the Bitch Pumpkin, Charlie Brown!

Anonymous

I love Anthony Ryan’s sunglasses. I hope he stays.

Anonymous

judges: NO, you do not like that on your thighs. Let me tell you what you like, foolish girl.

Anonymous

Pockets? On your thighs? MADNESS!
- Anonymous
  
  Better throw out all my pants.

Anonymous

Those poor women.

Anonymous

Not my choices, but I think Bryce for the auf and Anya for the win.

Anonymous

Probably that’s her look of shock.

I wish that actress person would wear it to a red carpet!
- http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=552853133 Teddy Partridge
  
  Or to a gallery opening, like Miss Kors said!

Anonymous

Anya always comes up with new silhouettes? Are we watching the same show?

Anonymous

So who else was thinking the same thing…show of hands…

o/
- Anonymous
  
  /Hand up/
- Anonymous
  
  me too
Anonymous

It’s a great dress for the woman with a split personality-long, short, sleeveless, sleeved….
Anonymous

DELUSIONAL.

Anonymous

There is nothing new or different about Anya’s silhouette.

Anonymous

Wow. They do love Anya, don’t they?

Anonymous

I. Hate. Anya. I swear if she wins the whole show I will throw my cable box out the window.

http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

I really wouldn’t recommend that…. they get really pissy if you don’t return them:) Maybe you could throw an Anya like doll instead?
- http://beautyforrealgirls.blogspot.com/ accidental housewife
  
  Oooh. Anya voodoo dolls.

Anonymous

Anya’s=craft project. But it gets the judges off. PASS THE BROKEN LIGHTBULB, WE HAVE MORE CRACK TO SMOKE

Anonymous

Anya has a sex tape on the Judges. That would explain the madness
- Joe J
  
  You want some irony? Google “Anya Ayoung Chee” and “sex tape”. But please, PLEASE do not click on the links.
  - Anonymous
    
    Oh my! I’ll not look at Anya the same way again!
Anonymous

They love those hippy dippy chicks. Like Gretchen.

http://twitter.com/solidcurrency solidcurrency

Viktor’s better win.

Anonymous

Not gonna win because of “styling”
- Anonymous
  
  I don’t understand the criticism of “He should have skipped the bag”. For heavens sake, he MADE that bag, it’s very cute and doesn’t every woman want/need a bag when going out in a cute dress?
  - Toto Maya
    
    He should have made the bag and then skipped it! Also he should have knitted a pair of socks to not show as well.

Anonymous

SO Josh does a circle skirt – Startling NEW Never scene before – oh wait it has been seen before ? By HIm? Since 1950′s and before? What?

And calling the shoes “the splash of color in his outfit”?

Anonymous

I fear that anyone who participated in the boob drinking game now has alcohol poisoning and should have someone drive them to the nearest ER.

–GothamTomato

Frank Quotes

I love Victor’s outfit, but it’s also something you can buy in a store. That store is Anthropologie. I swear they’re selling both the shirt and skirt right now.

I thought Anthony’s outfit was super cute and would totally wear, whatever Heidi says – however, I understand why he’s in the bottom. There wasn’t a lot of design to it.

I’m not a big Josh fan, but honestly, his was beautiful and he did a fantastic job melding his aesthic with his client’s.

Anonymous

Maybe you can buy a similiar outfit to Vicktor’s at Anthropolgie but you can get Josh’s dress at any Macy’s or Steinmart. At least Anthropolgie is somewhat more cool and fashion focused.
Anonymous

I don’t see that he “melded his aesthic with his client’s”, that was his client’s taste. It would have been melding if he had added those metal squares he wanted so badly to add.
http://www.facebook.com/samuel.j.donovan Samuel Joesph Donovan

I agree with the other replies–every one of Josh’s suggestions and actual design ideas were vetoed. He was a good dressmaker in this challenge, but Anya or Viktor should have gotten the win.

Anonymous

God I hate that Missoni Target stuff. Hate. It.

Anonymous

It looks so cheap. The colors are just…tropical starburst. I don’t get it.
Toto Maya

Those commercials blinded me.
http://www.facebook.com/samuel.j.donovan Samuel Joesph Donovan

I love that stuff!

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D25FA7JBTICUMUQRAD3KQJMAEI Carol

Anya’s is “fashion with a capital F”? Indeed, Duchess – but not in the way you intended.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OSYAJATXUH3QX7ZDDF52GXG4PU Janie R

More like “capital what the F.”

Anonymous

I bet Anya’s torn bathrobe wins!!! The drunk Geisha.

Anonymous

Anya is so headed for the finale. And I find her stuff just so… Uninteresting. It’s like, with her prints, she ought to really pull me in. And instead, I feel like I’m looking at stuff made with a Butterick pattern in 1976 for my home ec class. All it needs is little black pompoms tacked to the hem. Poncho! Picnic tablecloth! Gallerista! It’s convertible!

Kathleen Gillies

Hey, I have a tshirt with little pom poms on the hem…. I thought it was cute…

Nancy Snyder

I hate Anya’s “dress”. It’s awful with the half mullet half sleeved. And it doesn’t fit. and it’s not “kimono-esque.” Haven’t the Japanese suffered enough.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5KDTLDJA7ZBCPDP6HV4FZMJDII Indigo

It’s not a kimono, but it is Kimono-esque. anyone can see the inspiration plain as day.
- Nancy Snyder
  
  I don’t see it — it doesn’t have the traditional sleeve set or fit even. IIf the requirement is that it’s tied with a belt then it’s also bathrobe-esque – But she called it a kimono I believe.
  
  But it’s most likely that I’m just angry and judgy. and already forget what exactly it looked like.
  - Anonymous
    
    I agree with the “half-mullet” and “Haven’t the Japanese suffered enough”!
  - http://www.facebook.com/samuel.j.donovan Samuel Joesph Donovan
    
    What made it kimono esque was the distinctive riff on the obi belt, as well as the construction on the sleeve.
    - Kathleen Gillies
      
      Kimono sleeves are cut on, not set in, n’est ce pas?
- Kathleen Gillies
  
  Wouldn’t it need to have a kimono sleeve for it to be kimono-esque? Otherwise it’s just a hacked up bathrobe.

Anonymous

Oh, thank god she didn’t win.

Joe J

Josh wins. I spit.

Anonymous

Frickin AY. What does Viktor have to do to get a win?

Anonymous

I so hate Josh!

Anonymous

They robbed Viktor. Again.

Anonymous

Noooo!!!!!!!

Anonymous

Don’t be bragging about two wins, Joshy baby. Anya designed your other win.

Anonymous

Exactly. I think he’s forgetting that that first time, he really had nothing to do with the look that won him that one.

Anonymous

Another reason to hate Miss Clinique Counter.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2IVH65NRJLZB7MQ6CCXQUBDJ6U Melanie H

Are your freaking kidding me!!! They gave it to Josh???!!! Stupid, stupid judges.

Anonymous

I. HATE. JOSH.

Anonymous

He really is a horrendous human being, at least on this show. Bully. Conceited. Jerk.

Anonymous

Oh, a black dress off the rack at Belk wins the competition. WRRYYY

Anonymous

This is ridiculous.

Anonymous

Josh. Right. Can’t believe he won.

At least Bert is safe.

Anonymous

Cant believe that poor man’s George Michael won……. Viktor was robbed again!

http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

george michael was not such a jerk.

it takes someone singularly untalented & rewarded for that lack of talent to have an ego inflated double the size of the largest float in the macys thanksgiving day parade to act that badly.

like em or not, the membership of wham could at least carry a tune as the wiggled around, all in a catchy manner.

josh hasnt the equivalence in talent to be a an all the way in the back backup dancer.

feh.

Anonymous

Alexander McQueen. His work is pure art. One who was too brilliant for this world.

As an aside, I was once Facebooking and a pop-up ad on the side said “Get Lady Ga-Ga shoes” and had a picture of a shoe from the spring/summer 2010 collection… dark blue, kind of “coral/mermaid”-y looking… can’t find a picture to save my life.

I was horrified. I love Ga-Ga as much as the next girl but those are MCQUEEN’S shoes, worn by Ga-Ga.

http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

Oh my God! I know Ga-Ga may be considered a fashion icon, and I do find her interesting, but to label them “Ga-Ga shoes”?!? And then people wonder why he hated the business! Ga-Ga’s style (much of it) was from McQueen, not the other way around!
- Anonymous
  
  Girl, preach.
http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

Oh my God! I know Ga-Ga may be considered a fashion icon, and I do find her interesting, but to label them “Ga-Ga shoes”?!? And then people wonder why he hated the business! Ga-Ga’s style (much of it) was from McQueen, not the other way around!
http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart

Oh my God! I know Ga-Ga may be considered a fashion icon, and I do find her interesting, but to label them “Ga-Ga shoes”?!? And then people wonder why he hated the business! Ga-Ga’s style (much of it) was from McQueen, not the other way around!

Anonymous

Boooo! I wanted Vicktor to win!!!

Anonymous

It’s got to be Bryce.

http://twitter.com/katielmck Katie McKinney

It’s just because he showed growth by not bedazzling. I wanted Victor!

Anonymous

Bingo

Anonymous

Buh-bye Bryce

Anonymous

So…that makes four times Bert has been in the bottom. Is that a new record?

Joe J

In a row? Possibly. In total, I think Wendy, Vincent, Logan, and Blayne are still ahead of him. Possibly more.
- Anonymous
  
  haha but logan was smokin which made it okay. so bert naturally won’t last much longer.
  - http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart
    
    And had shiny silver pants… Don’t forget the pants…
  - http://profiles.google.com/shannonlstewart Shannon Stewart
    
    And had shiny silver pants… Don’t forget the pants…

Joe J

Called it at the beginning of the show! For once!

Anonymous

Me, too! He said the first line of the show, and I turned to my partner and said, “He’s out.”

Rebecca Zmarzly

Well, that was a huge surprise. /sarcasm

Anonymous

Bryce held out a lot longer then I thought he would, actually.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OSYAJATXUH3QX7ZDDF52GXG4PU Janie R

I’m glad they put him (and us) out of his misery. Has anyone ever been in the bottom as much as Bryce?

Anonymous

Miss Clinique, I’ll make your coffee. Cream and cyanide?

Anonymous

Who’s gonna make my COFFEE????!!

–GothamTomato

Now I am The Bee

I’m glad others caught that remark. CC says nothing about poor Bryce who just got kicked off–but all about HIS coffee. Such a telling comment from a total self-centered arse.
I hate to say it though, I liked his dress….But Viktor should have won. Much more fashion forward.
- Anonymous
  
  Also, he expects his eggs well done! on the counter! when he gets out of the shower! Just kidding but not really!
  - http://karensbooksandchocolate.blogspot.com/ Karenlibrarian
    
    He’s this year’s Gretchen, but with better makeup. I was so offended last year when she made EVERYTHING about her, like when Mondo revealed his big secret — she said something about how honored she felt to be a part of it. I wanted to reach into the TV and smack her.
- Anonymous
  
  Also, he expects his eggs well done! on the counter! when he gets out of the shower! Just kidding but not really!
- Anonymous
  
  Also, he expects his eggs well done! on the counter! when he gets out of the shower! Just kidding but not really!

Anonymous

Seriously? Vicktor had a much more designed and polished dress than JOSH and Anthony ryan’s dress was certainly uglier than Bryce. I don’t agree, at all.

Anonymous

I totally agree! Last round on me:)

Anonymous

ANOTHER team challenge? Really?

Anonymous

FUCKING TEAMS CHALLENGES!
I hate you BM

Anonymous

No. No. NO. NO! NOT ANOTHER TEAM CHALLENGE.

Anonymous

Did Bryce just say he’s going to listen to as much Lady Gaa as he can? Why?

Anonymous

he said in his intro video (or whatever they call those things) that he was just this close to internet stalking gaga, he’s obsessed.
http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

cos he thinks it will help him live up to his piercing.
http://profiles.google.com/trashilove { edi } ilovetrash

cos he thinks it will help him live up to his piercing.

Anonymous

Woah menswear next week.

Anonymous

Woah menswear next week.

Anonymous

Reggae Jesus? Really?

Anonymous

Reggae Jesus? Really?

Anonymous

Reggae Jesus? Really?

Anonymous

Reggae Jesus? Really?

Anonymous

….what? Just because he didn’t make something tacky and way overdesigned for once that automatically makes his extremely boring and plain dress worthy of a win? Rage. Can Viktor stop being robbed please?

Anonymous

….what? Just because he didn’t make something tacky and way overdesigned for once that automatically makes his extremely boring and plain dress worthy of a win? Rage. Can Viktor stop being robbed please?

Anonymous

….what? Just because he didn’t make something tacky and way overdesigned for once that automatically makes his extremely boring and plain dress worthy of a win? Rage. Can Viktor stop being robbed please?

Anonymous

….what? Just because he didn’t make something tacky and way overdesigned for once that automatically makes his extremely boring and plain dress worthy of a win? Rage. Can Viktor stop being robbed please?

Anonymous

….what? Just because he didn’t make something tacky and way overdesigned for once that automatically makes his extremely boring and plain dress worthy of a win? Rage. Can Viktor stop being robbed please?

Anonymous

Adam!! yay!

Anonymous

Adam!! yay!

Anonymous

Adam!! yay!

Anonymous

Adam!! yay!

Anonymous

Adam!! yay!

Anonymous

Adam!! yay!

Anonymous

So I missed the challenge. Is it to make something tacky, slutty and OTT?

Anonymous

“it draws your eye to the crotch”

You don’t like that?

WTF 4th team episode – but I guess since some of the designers have made mens’ and others’ haven’t – this could be the only time that teaming could help some people

Anonymous

“it draws your eye to the crotch”

You don’t like that?

WTF 4th team episode – but I guess since some of the designers have made mens’ and others’ haven’t – this could be the only time that teaming could help some people

Anonymous

“it draws your eye to the crotch”

You don’t like that?

WTF 4th team episode – but I guess since some of the designers have made mens’ and others’ haven’t – this could be the only time that teaming could help some people

Anonymous

“it draws your eye to the crotch”

You don’t like that?

WTF 4th team episode – but I guess since some of the designers have made mens’ and others’ haven’t – this could be the only time that teaming could help some people

Anonymous

“it draws your eye to the crotch”

You don’t like that?

WTF 4th team episode – but I guess since some of the designers have made mens’ and others’ haven’t – this could be the only time that teaming could help some people

Anonymous

“it draws your eye to the crotch”

You don’t like that?

WTF 4th team episode – but I guess since some of the designers have made mens’ and others’ haven’t – this could be the only time that teaming could help some people

Anonymous